has anyone attended an anglican use mass?

[7_Sorrows]

Dear GKC

The parishes that have closed were because of losing a priest and very small congregations.

At this time there are more and more former Episcopal priests who are becoming Catholic priests under the Pastoral Provison. Some of them and the congreations are pretty new and some are just starting. The process takes time, but I believe that it is growing.

Even if TAC is not accepted into the Church as a whole, there will be communities and priests that will be accepted into the Pastoral Provsion. You must remember that Rome moves slowly. They want to be sure that these priests and congregations understand exactly what becoming Catholic means. Rome has been very accommodating to the AC parishes. Some of the problems lie with the Bishops. Although some Bishops don’t want an AU parish and don’t like them, there are also Bishops that don’t like the Pope. I believe that the Provision is the Lord’s will and it will grow as time goes by.

Maybe it won’t be hugh, but the Eastern rites have also had a rough time and they continue.

Please don’t refer to the parishes in Texas as trophy parishes. They aren’t. The ones that have done well is because there are more people in those areas that love the liturgy and warmth they receive. The reason OLA has done so well in my humble opinion is because God has blessed it. Who knows how many more will grow as large. Numbers really don’t matter, it is the FAITH that these parishes have that is important. The people are being fed.

I belong to a small (compared to some Catholic churches) parish. Maybe 1000 families and it is very traditional. The priests are very faithful and so are the members. We must wait and see what God has in store for the Anglican Use.

I belonged to several Episcopal churches over the years and found them unfriendly. I know that there are many that are not like that, but that was my experience. In one the priest helped to destroy the chance for us to have an Anglican Use parish. He did have influence but I can’t go into it. He also acted like he was the Pope when I belonged there. Thank God I found a good Anglo Catholic parish to attend. I know that no matter which church, Baptist, Episcopal, Catholic, Pentecostal etc. there are great pastors and people in them. I hold no hard feelings towards the Episcopal church, just sadness for what has become of it. I feel for the people who feel lost and are trying to find a home. For me everyone must find where they grow spiritually. Even though I feel that the Catholic Church (and have since I was a child) is the Church Christ started not everyone can accept this teaching. We all must search our hearts and pray for the Holy Spirit to lead us where He wants us to be.

For some reason your past posts sometimes seem to show bitterness towards the Pastoral Provision. I apologize if I am reading something into them that is not there. As a Christian we are to love our brothers and sisters and pray for them and be happy that they have found where God wants them.

There is nothing anyone can do to bring back the Episcopal church to what it was and I am sure that grieves many. I will pray for them to find peace wherever they are led.

Again I apologize if I misunderstood any of your posts.

Yours in the Hearts of Jesus and Mary

Bernadette

i was just thinking the other night that i wish there was some way to bring the Episcopal church back to what it was, but, sadly, i don’t see that as a possibility. i went to the website of the episcopal church i grew up in and they had a short film showing all of the different branches types of episcopal and anglican churches that there are now. it is very sad. it was trying to say to just try the old Episcopal church, but, sadly, i don’t know what that means anymore. the archbishops of canterbury have not been strong leaders the past 40 years i don’t think. i know what you mean about the one true church. there are issues within the Roman Catholic church also, but the Popes are still able to try to hold everyone together as one community. i do hope the dialogue continues between the anglican communion and Rome because people in the anglican communion have had to go through a lot, and i was like you, i just felt an emptiness when i was in my last episcopal church. as far as episcopalians being unfriendly, sometimes i found that to be the case, but normally they were pretty friendly. i found most episcopalians to be pretty well off financially and many had been cradle episcopalians. we really need to pray for the episcopalians and anglicans and that there be a healing from all of the controversy over the last 10 years or so. the anglican communion is beautiful and has a beautiful and rich liturgy. of course, Rome needs our prayers too.

 

[7_Sorrows]

thanks for the (name removed by moderator)ut so far. many people have not heard of the anglican use mass and don’t have a clue to what it is. i am glad to know there are a few people out there that are familiar with it.

 

[7_Sorrows]

Anglo-Catholic is not the same as the Anglican Use liturgy of the RCC, however.

Also, I suspect that the website you were referred to might, in fact, be that of the Anglican Catholic Church, one of the main Continuing Anglican jurisdictions, separated from the Episcopal Church, for many years.

It is all complicated, I fear.

GKC

you are so right, GKC. it IS all complicated.

 

[beckers]

I agree with you 100%. I can’t imagine RCC dioceses wanting an AU church because the minute a Catholic leaves the pitiful NO mass and goes to the beautiful, rich, lovely Anglican liturgy, a lot of folks would bail lol…

Its what is happening somewhat in our diocese. The young adults are starting to come to Our lady of Walsingham . There are tons of childern and we have a seminarian and and a deacon in training.

The AU parishes are special and i can’t imgaining them growing to be that large in any dicoese. Our previous Bishops’s and our new Cardinal have been nothing but supportive.

 

[CHESTERTONRULES]

i would like to hear from anyone who attends a parish where the anglican use mass is used or from anyone who has ever attended an anglican use mass? what is your opinion of the mass? do they use anglican chants in this mass?

I found it to be very reverent and interesting, but I prefer the latin rite mass(novus ordo) because that is what I am used to.

 

[BernadetteM]

7 Sorrows,

Regarding the Anglican Use I have tried to send you messages, but I am having a problem understanding how to do it I guess. If this message should be on another forum, please someone let me know.

Also where do I go to to get help on how some of the options work. I am not very good at this.

Please forgive me all if this message should be on another forum.

Yours in the Hearts of Jesus and Mary

Bernadette

 

[Cairisti]

Its what is happening somewhat in our diocese. The young adults are starting to come to Our lady of Walsingham . There are tons of childern and we have a seminarian and and a deacon in training.

The AU parishes are special and i can’t imgaining them growing to be that large in any dicoese. Our previous Bishops’s and our new Cardinal have been nothing but supportive.

That’s good to hear! I love attending OLoW - it’s such a wonderful parish! (Though still have yet to attend the Gregorian chant Mass! ) Having an AU parish just adds to the richness of our Catholic heritage.

 

[brigid12]

thanks bernadette for taking the time to reply. i was raised in the episcopal church and briefly attended an anglican church before converting to catholicism. i loved the Book of Common Prayer and i have seen the Book of Divine Worship used in the anglican use mass. i recently attended a class on gregorian chants and the teacher said he is looking forward to the day that he can attend an anglican use mass because he said the anglican chants are beautiful. i know one of the chants that he played in class was sang in the same melody we would chant the psalms in when i attended the anglican and episcopal church.
a regular anglican mass can be beautiful and i am sure that the anglican use mass is also. i have heard a lot about our lady of atonement and have visited their website.

i just wish the Book of Divine Worship had been based on the 1928 prayerbook instead of the 1979 prayerbook. of course, rome also helped to design the liturgy used in the anglican use in order that it be acceptable to be a part of the roman catholic church.

i don’t know how popular the anglican use mass will become. i would think in the larger cities you could find at least one church that offers it. an ex priest from my episcopal church was in the process of becoming catholic and he wanted to be able to preside over the anglican use mass as well as the regular masses.

:sad_yes:

 

[gurneyhalleck1]

Its what is happening somewhat in our diocese. The young adults are starting to come to Our lady of Walsingham . There are tons of childern and we have a seminarian and and a deacon in training.

The AU parishes are special and i can’t imgaining them growing to be that large in any dicoese. Our previous Bishops’s and our new Cardinal have been nothing but supportive.

I’d LOVE to have an AU parish here! I’d run down there so fast to worship that I’d leave scorch marks on the street. I LOVE the Anglican liturgy and miss it so much. The wording, the responsorials, the whole thing, love it. I’m NOT a fan of the NO liturgy. It’s just poorly-written IMO. I still read my Book of Common Prayer despite being Catholic because I just love the prayers and language. It’s a classic piece of literature no doubt.

I went back to my old Anglican parish not too long ago and was blown away how different that parish is with my current Catholic one. I haven’t been to it in about five years so I forgot how QUIET it was during the readings and sermon, how LOUD the people sing (and with so much vigor), and how good the sermons are. I really miss that fellowship after the service as well. Good stuff…but alas, only NO masses here complete with folks holding hands during the Our Father, Extraordinary ministers giving “blessings” to kids, communion in the hand, nobody bowing during the marian portion of the Creed, guitar music that drives me cookoo, crying babies, and not much sermon. I’d definitely go for AU were I to have the option!

 

[sympathy07]

No, I didn’t use this anglican mass.

 

[7_Sorrows]

i am happy to hear that there is so much enthusiasm with the anglican use mass.

yes, the book of common prayer is a beautiful book.

hopefully, someday, i will be able to attend one.