Has anyone attended the OF of the mass in Latin?

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Has anyone here attended a Latin Novus Ordo mass?

The Latin Novus Ordo Mass is so beautiful, it is the Mass that insprired me to revert to the church after my college years. It seems to me that having more of this Mass would unite people who are more traditionally minded from both ends of the spectrum, and attract confused souls back into spiritual community.

Where I live now Latin Novus Ordo is not offered, so I do summers Tridentine and the rest of the year Ordinary.
 
Hi! Yes, I have attended quite a few.

I agree that Latin N.O.s are preferable to the “traditional” Catholic, and that they offer a point of convergence between “trads” and “moderns.”

But that form cannot overcome the rift, for the simple reason that trads will not abandon the Tridentine mass.

What will overcome the rift is letting the trads have the old mass, as the Pope is doing.

This entails redefining one’s understanding of “obedience” or “unity.” This is difficult for R.C.s, because most of us carry a residual concept of unity and obedience that predates V2. The genie, however, cannot be put back in the lamp so easily.
 
mfrances said:
Has anyone here attended a Latin Novus Ordo mass?

The Latin Novus Ordo Mass is so beautiful, it is the Mass that insprired me to revert to the church after my college years. It seems to me that having more of this Mass would unite people who are more traditionally minded from both ends of the spectrum, and attract confused souls back into spiritual community.

Where I live now Latin Novus Ordo is not offered, so I do summers Tridentine and the rest of the year Ordinary.
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Yes, at a monastery in scotland while I was on retreat there. It was very beautiful but I still by far and away prefer the ‘Tridentine’ or Mass of Ages.
 
mfrances said:
Has anyone here attended a Latin Novus Ordo mass?

The Latin Novus Ordo Mass is so beautiful, it is the Mass that insprired me to revert to the church after my college years. It seems to me that having more of this Mass would unite people who are more traditionally minded from both ends of the spectrum, and attract confused souls back into spiritual community.

Where I live now Latin Novus Ordo is not offered, so I do summers Tridentine and the rest of the year Ordinary.
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yes I’ve been to 1Latin OF Mass…last summer in Chicago. It was awesome! It was said Ad Orientem, with kneeling at the communion rail and had a fairly decent congregation. My DH who is a convert to Catholicism and has never been to an EF Mass wondered what the differences were b/c it was a pretty different experience between the usual OF Mass we attend.
 
I helped start our local men’s gregorian chant group, the Brazos Valley Schola Cantorum. Since then, we’ve sung many Latin OF Masses and EF Masses. Here’s a link to a Pontifical EF Nuptial Mass that we sang for:

youtube.com/watch?v=eJM-BRdbS3c

Having had multiple exposures to both forms, I can say that I prefer the EF by far. It’s not simply that the Mass is in Latin. It is the actual prayers in the EF Mass that are superior. The sacrificial nature of the Mass is more explicit.

That having been said, we have not had an EF Mass in my town for years. Our local PV walked in on one of our rehearsals, started asking us questions, and then stated he wants to start trying to learn the OF Mass in Latin and offer a few private Masses with our schola assisting. So, we are excited to help add more solemnity to the local Masses in any way that priests are open to.
 
Yes, and both orientations. Twice at Monte Cassino in Italy, once at a funeral, and every Sunday at our Abbey at least chanted Latin Propers and Ordinary, the rest in French plainchant.
 
I would attend one. 👍

I saw a question asked by a poster on YouTube underneath a video of a supposed Latin OF but I was told it was actually an Anglican Use mass.

Anyway, the question was, “If you are going to have a mass in Latin, *ad orientem *why not have an EF”?

Any answers to that?
 
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I would attend one. 👍

I saw a question asked by a poster on YouTube underneath a video of a supposed Latin OF but I was told it was actually an Anglican Use mass.

Anyway, the question was, “If you are going to have a mass in Latin, *ad orientem *why not have an EF”?

Any answers to that?
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Yes, the rubrics, and the Mass itself is much different and in some respects, more complex than the OF. In the EF for example, the censing of the altar is prescribed down to the number and pattern of swings. It means you can’t just jump in and do an EF. To do it properly, requires training.
 
TrueLight said:
Anyway, the question was, “If you are going to have a mass in Latin, *ad orientem *why not have an EF”?

Any answers to that?
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Actually the number of Latin OF’s is much smaller than the number of EF’s, if you count all the diocesan EF, independent, and SSPX Masses. Now that’s baffling to me, considering the number of posters who complain the EF is too quiet, too fast, only has one cycle worth of readings, congregation can’t respond, bishop won’t allow the EF, not enough priests qualified, etc.
 
I’ve never been to one, but our bishop does one during the Mount Carmel pilgrimage at the shrine about an hour or more out of the city.
 
Oh, yes. I periodically go to Portland, OR for the 11:30am Sunday Latin NO and on ocassion to Portland’s St. Stephen’s on Saturday evening for the same. It is beautiful, particularily when one can listen to Cantores in Ecclesia sing the Mass. But, the big "however: It cannot compare with a 1962 Missa Cantata. And it is easy to tell the differences, Unless of course, you don’t know the Mass anyway.

God Bless
 
I’ve attended the Latin Novus Ordo Mass in St. Matthew’s Cathedral in D.C. several times. I believe they have one every Sunday morning. Wonderful schola.
 
mfrances said:
Has anyone here attended a Latin Novus Ordo mass?

The Latin Novus Ordo Mass is so beautiful, it is the Mass that insprired me to revert to the church after my college years. It seems to me that having more of this Mass would unite people who are more traditionally minded from both ends of the spectrum, and attract confused souls back into spiritual community.

Where I live now Latin Novus Ordo is not offered, so I do summers Tridentine and the rest of the year Ordinary.
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The Parish I attend has one every Sunday…as well as a Tridentine Mass every Sunday…and the English Novus Ordo to boot. I prefer the Tridentine, but often attend the Latin N.O. since it is later in the morning (gives us more time to get the kids up and dressed).

And now to proclaim my ignorance: what is E.F and O.F.?
 
ahs said:
The Parish I attend has one every Sunday…as well as a Tridentine Mass every Sunday…and the English Novus Ordo to boot. I prefer the Tridentine, but often attend the Latin N.O. since it is later in the morning (gives us more time to get the kids up and dressed).

And now to proclaim my ignorance: what is E.F and O.F.?
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E.F ‘Extraordinary form’, the name given by some to The Mass of Ages or Tridentine Mass and the O.F ‘Ordinary Form’, the name given by some to the Novus Ordo mass.
 
I think some priests who are unfamiliar with the EF rubrics would prefer a Latin OF Mass for a number of reasons. One major one would be the continuity of the calendar with his other vernacular OF Masses. He wouldn’t have to make separate homilies. The servers would not have to be re-trained. Same vestments and decorations (a big deal during Septuagesima and Sexagesima, or the Octaves during the EF calendar when there is a clash of liturgical decor color with the proper color for the OF days). He could use as little or as much Latin as he wants. He can do ad orientem if he wants, or not. He can use the Latin OF Mass as an opportunity to re-introduce the Propers of the Mass (yes, this is a whole part of the OF Mass that most Catholics are completely unaware exists, even though the Propers are the first choice of chants: Introit, Gradual, Offertory, and Communion Antiphons are rarely heard these days).

IOW, the flexibility and uniformity of the OF in Latin or vernacular is less imposing to some busy priests.
 
Our Msgr said he actually prefers the OF to the EF because the EF has less of the message of salvation during consecration than the OF. I’m not sure exactly what that meant, or if I’m 100% correct in that. Something to the effect that the EF does not have “do this in remembrance of me”? Anyone have any insight on that?

—Wait…I think it was that he said the Eucharistic prayer (or the words at consecration…darn I can’t remember) was more sacrificial in the OF and he didn’t like the fact that there is not processional in the EF.

I still prefer the EF. 😉
 
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