Has anyone ever done a rigorous archaeological/historical study of the celebration of the Mass?

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Has anyone ever conducted a rigorous archaeological/historical study on the celebration of the Mass in the Western Church?

I would be interested to know how the Mass evolved from the Last Supper, through perhaps the first five centuries AD – a thousand or so years before the advent of the EF Mass as we know it.

I would prefer an apolitical study by a professional lay archaeologist and or historian if possible. Thank you.
 
Has anyone ever conducted a rigorous archaeological/historical study on the celebration of the Mass in the Western Church?

I would be interested to know how the Mass evolved from the Last Supper, through perhaps the first five centuries AD – a thousand or so years before the advent of the EF Mass as we know it.

I would prefer an apolitical study by a professional lay archaeologist and or historian if possible. Thank you.
There are some, though I don’t know your exact requirements. The PBS Frontline program has a nice two part, 4 hour documentary called The Jesus Movement. I book I read 10 years ago was call “From Jesus to Christianity”.

I can say that there is a general consensus that a man named Jesus did exist. He is referenced in 3rd party sources. We also know that Pontius Pilate was indeed a real man. Fragments of stone have been found with his name on it. One has to remember that early Christianity was essentially expecting the end of the world, theology was not exactly on their minds. Theology came after people realized the end times were not nigh. The Catholic understanding the Eucharist developed through a series of councils and church proclamations as Christian orthodoxy was established Your interest in the Evolution of the Eucharist is probably best answered through understanding those around the 2nd and 3rd centuries.
 
Not sure you’ll do any better than the excellent work in 15 volumes The Liturgical Year by Fr. Prosper Gueranger, written in the 19th century. This was his life’s work.
… We also know that Pontius Pilate was indeed a real man. Fragments of stone have been found with his name on it…
We don’t need fragments of rock to tell us Pontius Pilate was real. “Sub Pontio Pilato” has been repeated by millions, or perhaps a billion people over 20 centuries.
 
There are some, though I don’t know your exact requirements. The PBS Frontline program has a nice two part, 4 hour documentary called The Jesus Movement. I book I read 10 years ago was call “From Jesus to Christianity”.

I can say that there is a general consensus that a man named Jesus did exist. He is referenced in 3rd party sources. We also know that Pontius Pilate was indeed a real man. Fragments of stone have been found with his name on it. One has to remember that early Christianity was essentially expecting the end of the world, theology was not exactly on their minds. Theology came after people realized the end times were not nigh. The Catholic understanding the Eucharist developed through a series of councils and church proclamations as Christian orthodoxy was established Your interest in the Evolution of the Eucharist is probably best answered through understanding those around the 2nd and 3rd centuries.
I would just like to understand from a non-political standpoint how the sacrificial liturgy in the Western Church developed based on archaeological and historical analysis.

I’m not really looking to how the theology changed or developed. I want to know how the actual process of the celebration of the Mass developed.
 
Has anyone ever conducted a rigorous archaeological/historical study on the celebration of the Mass in the Western Church?

I would be interested to know how the Mass evolved from the Last Supper, through perhaps the first five centuries AD – a thousand or so years before the advent of the EF Mass as we know it.

I would prefer an apolitical study by a professional lay archaeologist and or historian if possible. Thank you.
As a Scientist, this question doesnt make sense.

What do Archaeologists do? How do they do it? Your Professional Archaeologist and Paeleoarchaeologist, will be just that, a professional, not a Scientific American learned hobbyist. Not a lay person.

Historians, unless specialists in Ancient History, and again, highly specialised and professional, wont be much help to you either.

Neither of these learned specialists would be concerned with the Politics of the present day. That, my friend, seems to be a (for want of a better word), scapegoat, employed as a tactical offensive when the spume of a given ideology scatters on a sea breeze.

You are far better off reading the works of Liturgy Theologians whose passion is in an Ancient historical context.
 
I would also offer another recommendation: Jesus and the Jewish Roots of the Eucharist by Brant Pitre. I based most of my Holy Thursday homily on it. Outstanding read, and written for the average lay Catholic in the pews.
 
Fr. Adrian Fortescue. The Mass: A Study of the Roman Liturgy (1912)
Hard copy | Online

Fr. Josef Jungmann, S.J. The Mass of the Roman Rite: Its Origins and Development (1951)
Online

I won’t link a hard copy of Jungmann because some are only Vol. 1 or 2, some don’t have footnotes, and some are abridged. Note also that in this work Jungmann finds historical precedent for “Mass facing the people” (as understood today); however, he later retracted this position (see Gamber, The Roman Rite, p. 151).
 
I would offer this suggestion:

Read a book by Fr Josef Jungmann The Mass of the Roman Rite

There are different translations out there, and publishers use different translations even for the title.

It’s a start. It’s a very good start.

It’s also available online, for free.

ccwatershed.org/blog/2014/jan/25/josef-jungmann-study-roman-rite-mass-pdf/
I have that book and I have read it. Informative, but Jungmann doesn’t go deep into the historical/archaeological process.
 
As a Scientist, this question doesnt make sense.

What do Archaeologists do? How do they do it? Your Professional Archaeologist and Paeleoarchaeologist, will be just that, a professional, not a Scientific American learned hobbyist. Not a lay person.

Historians, unless specialists in Ancient History, and again, highly specialised and professional, wont be much help to you either.

Neither of these learned specialists would be concerned with the Politics of the present day. That, my friend, seems to be a (for want of a better word), scapegoat, employed as a tactical offensive when the spume of a given ideology scatters on a sea breeze.

You are far better off reading the works of Liturgy Theologians whose passion is in an Ancient historical context.
Arrogant, much?
 
Has anyone ever conducted a rigorous archaeological/historical study on the celebration of the Mass in the Western Church?

I would be interested to know how the Mass evolved from the Last Supper, through perhaps the first five centuries AD – a thousand or so years before the advent of the EF Mass as we know it.

*I would prefer an apolitical study by a professional lay archaeologist and or historian if possible. * Thank you.
St Justin Martyr is certainly apolitical, and a historian. This took place ~155 a.d.

First Apology

Chapter 65. Administration of the sacraments

But we, after we have thus washed him who has been convinced and has assented to our teaching, bring him to the place where those who are called brethren are assembled, in order that we may offer hearty prayers in common for ourselves and for the baptized [illuminated] person, and for all others in every place, that we may be counted worthy, now that we have learned the truth, by our works also to be found good citizens and keepers of the commandments, so that we may be saved with an everlasting salvation. Having ended the prayers, we salute one another with a kiss. There is then brought to the president of the brethren bread and a cup of wine mixed with water; and he taking them, gives praise and glory to the Father of the universe, through the name of the Son and of the Holy Ghost, and offers thanks at considerable length for our being counted worthy to receive these things at His hands. And when he has concluded the prayers and thanksgivings, all the people present express their assent by saying Amen. This word Amen answers in the Hebrew language to γένοιτο [so be it]. And when the president has given thanks, and all the people have expressed their assent, those who are called by us deacons give to each of those present to partake of the bread and wine mixed with water over which the thanksgiving was pronounced, and to those who are absent they carry away a portion.

Chapter 66. Of the Eucharist

And this food is called among us Εὐχαριστία the Eucharist], of which no one is allowed to partake but the man who believes that the things which we teach are true, and who has been washed with the washing that is for the remission of sins, and unto regeneration, and who is so living as Christ has enjoined. For not as common bread and common drink do we receive these; but in like manner as Jesus Christ our Saviour, having been made flesh by the Word of God, had both flesh and blood for our salvation, so likewise have we been taught that the food which is blessed by the prayer of His word, and from which our blood and flesh by transmutation are nourished, is the flesh and blood of that Jesus who was made flesh. For the apostles, in the memoirs composed by them, which are called Gospels, have thus delivered unto us what was enjoined upon them; that Jesus took bread, and when He had given thanks, said, This do in remembrance of Me, this is My body; and that, after the same manner, having taken the cup and given thanks, He said, This is My blood; and gave it to them alone. Which the wicked devils have imitated in the mysteries of Mithras, commanding the same thing to be done. For, that bread and a cup of water are placed with certain incantations in the mystic rites of one who is being initiated, you either know or can learn.

Chapter 67. Weekly worship of the Christians

And we afterwards continually remind each other of these things. And the wealthy among us help the needy; and we always keep together; and for all things wherewith we are supplied, we bless the Maker of all through His Son Jesus Christ, and through the Holy Ghost. And on the day called Sunday, all who live in cities or in the country gather together to one place, and the memoirs of the apostles or the writings of the prophets are read, as long as time permits; then, when the reader has ceased, the president verbally instructs, and exhorts to the imitation of these good things. Then we all rise together and pray, and, as we before said, when our prayer is ended, bread and wine and water are brought, and the president in like manner offers prayers and thanksgivings, according to his ability, and the people assent, saying Amen; and there is a distribution to each, and a participation of that over which thanks have been given, and to those who are absent a portion is sent by the deacons. And they who are well to do, and willing, give what each thinks fit; and what is collected is deposited with the president, who succours the orphans and widows and those who, through sickness or any other cause, are in want, and those who are in bonds and the strangers sojourning among us, and in a word takes care of all who are in need. But Sunday is the day on which we all hold our common assembly, because it is the first day on which God, having wrought a change in the darkness and matter, made the world; and Jesus Christ our Saviour on the same day rose from the dead. For He was crucified on the day before that of Saturn (Saturday); and on the day after that of Saturn, which is the day of the Sun, having appeared to His apostles and disciples, He taught them these things, which we have submitted to you also for your consideration.
 
Thank you for this…
:tiphat: you’re welcome

As an aside

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Chapter 65. Administration of the sacraments

“But we, **after we have thus washed him **who has been convinced and has assented to our teaching, bring him to the place where those who are called brethren are assembled, in order that we may offer hearty prayers in common for ourselves and for the baptized [illuminated] person, and for all others in every place, that we may be counted worthy, now that we have learned the truth, by our works also to be found good citizens and keepers of the commandments, so that we may be saved with an everlasting salvation. Having ended the prayers, we salute one another with a kiss. There is then brought to ***the president ***of the brethren bread and a cup of wine mixed with water; and he taking them, gives praise and glory to the Father of the universe, through the name of the Son and of the Holy Ghost, and offers thanks at considerable length for our being counted worthy to receive these things at His hands. And when he has concluded the prayers and thanksgivings, all the people present express their assent by saying Amen. This word Amen answers in the Hebrew language to γένοιτο [so be it]. And when the president has given thanks, and all the people have expressed their assent, those who are called by us deacons give to each of those present to partake of the bread and wine mixed with water over which the thanksgiving was pronounced, and to those who are absent they carry away a portion.

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  • after we have washed him” = after baptism
  • a kiss” = this is called the kiss of peace at mass even today
  • the president” = the priest. The priest is the one who presides at mass
  • they carry away a portion”= Eucharistic ministers to the sick, take the Eucharist in a pyx, Pyx | Catholic Answers ]to the sick who couldn’t be at mass
When I said that took place ~155 a.d., I don’t mean that’s when it started. That’s when Justin Martyr wrote about it.
 
I would second Mike Aquilina’s book, “The Mass of the Early Christians.”

He gives the historical perspective, using first-hand sources, of the liturgical practices used in the Mass from the earliest Christians to maybe AD 500. I can’t remember if it goes beyond that. He does a fair amount of comparing the liturgical texts and some of the liturgical practices based on the writings of the church that are extant as well as the writings of contemporary historians, philosophers, critics, etc.
 
Has anyone ever conducted a rigorous archaeological/historical study on the celebration of the Mass in the Western Church?

I would be interested to know how the Mass evolved from the Last Supper, through perhaps the first five centuries AD – a thousand or so years before the advent of the EF Mass as we know it.

I would prefer an apolitical study by a professional lay archaeologist and or historian if possible. Thank you.
I would recommend Fr. Pierre Loret’s book, ‘The Story of the Mass,’ as well as the fairly recent book, ‘Liturgy: The Illustrated History’ by Keith F. Pecklers SJ.
 
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