Has anyone suffered from suicide of a family member?

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I am curious if anyone here, has suffered from the suicide of a family member.
What was the grief like, or can you describe any details. Did you feel any mourning or was it hatefulness ?

Or any parents, or brothers or sisters of a parent whose child committed suicide
Did you feel at all like you could have “Helped” did you feel that church could have “Helped”
any of those sorts of things.

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My first husband took his own life at home.
My daughters grieved, but after a time were relived, as I was. He was an alcoholic who thought everyone else was crazy, and mean, and abusive, and anything else you can think of.
They went through a period of not allowing anyone to say anything negative about him.
it took many years for them to “remember” all the things he did to us. I tried very hard to not talk about it too much because it upset them. They were very concerned he’d go to hell. A kind priest had a frank talk with them mostly about the mercy of God.
I think they have concluded that he must have been mentally ill.
The other day some man killed his 5 children and his ex-wife, her boyfriend and himself in our town.
It all came flooding back. The 15 yr. old daughter (the same age as my youngest at the time) kept screaming in the street where he chased her,
please don’t shoot me daddy, please don’t shoot me!" He ended up shooting her in the mouth.
My husband shot himself in the mouth with a shotgun. At home.
Selfish. Incredibly selfish. Every time I hear someone killed themselves I wonder how they could possibly think it would help anything?
Of course we mourned. We mourned the fact that we never had a nice family dynamic. We were always to blame for his unhappiness. We were always to blame.
I often wonder, is he still mad at us?
I remember the morning after looking up to heaven, and saying
“well Ralph…have you met Jesus? And are you surprised that He exists after all?”

Beyond that, I am remarried to a wonderful man. I try not to think about it anymore, but on birthdays and other family days, the girls miss their dad. He was their daddy and always will be. They wish he wouldn’t have left.
I wish he hadn’t punished us to the end. Months later, I found bits of skull in a corner of the garage. If he wanted to make us miserable, it worked.
 
My parish suffered the loss of one of its active youth to suicide last year. One of my own children had been very close to this person. In fact, we were at his/her grave just earlier today.

Driving over to the cemetery, I was praying and blurted out, “in what I have done and in what I have failed to do”.

My parish failed that kid.
Plain and simple.

Why?

Indifference.

It’s like he/she never existed. And that young person had served for many years. It is heartbreaking.

I have some pamphlets titled Losing a Child to Suicide: Trusting in God’s Mercy distributed by the USCCB Secretariat of Pro-life Activities. It is very comforting.

My parish has two new priests and I’m hoping that they will permit me to place these pamphlets and some other USSCB pro-life tracts in the parish vestibule.
 
I had a neighbor who came home one day and informed his wife he was going to kill himself and went into the bathroom, disrobed and got in the bathtub and shot himself in the head. I had seen him a few hours earlier and he was in his driveway. I mentioned it wasn’t quite warm enough to swim yet because his daughter used to like to come to our house and swim. I was just making small talk after saying hello to him. He had a mean look on his face and made a sarcastic comment. I didn’t understand why he was being rude. He was never very friendly. His wife was kind of sickly and he taught at the university. The conversation I had with him probably lasted less than a minute, but it did haunt me a little. I kept going over the look on his face and the sarcastic comment he made and how rude he had been.

I had a relative of my dad who committed suicide in my grandma’s house. It was before I was born or when I was little. When we got older we would ask our grandma to show us the room where it happened. To us, it was like the room was haunted.

The second husband of a good friend of mine killed himself, but I did not know him
 
What you described with your neighbor would probably haunt me too.

May I ask a question?

What inspired your original post?

I lost a dear friend who was a veteran to suicide when I was in my early 20’s. It hurt a very long time.

But there is just something about the young person from my parish … that suicide bothers me in a way I can"t exactly put my finger on yet.

Btw, are you ok? just thought I’d ask because of the subject matter.
 
I checked online and also found this…afsp.org/coping-with-suicide-loss/find-support/find-a-support-group

I haven’t actually suffered a suicide of a family member, but I’ve had family members who have felt suicidal.

For years, I have felt that way, as well. Now, suicide may be selfish. I don´t know. I just know that I had felt I was in so much pain, emotionally, that I wanted it to stop. I was thinking that if I took my life, nobody would care, anyway, that it might even be a kind of relief to some. I had a kind of tunnel vision, I think, for the most part.

Some people say suicide is anger which we direct, inward.

I try not judge people, even ones who want to, or have, committed suicide. I can´t find it in my heart to do that.

Now, maybe the case in point is that he was quite miserable, to a point he would rather die than go on, made everyone else around him miserable.

I don´t think suicidal people are normally thinking clearly, that they are in a state of utter despair, feel hopeless, helpless. Indeed, they may actually blame everyone else for what is their problems, project it onto them. That’s possible, even probable.

I think many are quite mentally ill, and I feel, also, as a result of that, I have even less right to judge. They say not to judge someone until we have walked a mile in his/her moccasins.

Well, we don´t know if we, in their places, would not have done the same, or even worse!

Though, it must be awful in the extreme to try to survive that, to have a loved one commit suicide, try to blame others for it.

I just think the thinking becomes so depressed, negative that they feel they have nothing to live for, that they can´t feel any joy in anything, often feel unloved (whether they are or not is another issue…they FEEL unloved). Some feel alone, lonely, even when surrounded by people.

I didn´t take my life, didn´t attempt it even, but if I had, I guess I would have wanted people to realize that I felt like it was more than I could handle, that I didn´t know what else to do, that this seemed the only way out, that I didn´t know of anything else left to try.

It felt like a great effort to resist the urge, actually. I felt strongly compelled to act on this. It felt like I was quite strong, not to give in. At some times, it felt like it would have been, in some ways, easier to have taken my life than to go on living, since my life seemed SO hard.

I talked to someone within the last year or so who wanted to commit suicide and have his wife commit suicide, too…go together. His wife had been bedridden with arthritis for…I guess 4 years, and he had been messed over by people when she had fallen, wouldn´t heal. They kept making them go back, and back, and back, paying the ambulance to take her around each time. Neither of them had much of a life. She used a diaper, was in chronic pain which she referred to as “purgatory”. It was awful.

He had said to some people at the hospital, “I am taking all your pictures, and if you don´t resolve this (issue), YOU will have it on your consciences when I commit suicide!”

I’ve talked to others who were in relationships, some abusive, who wanted to commit suicide. One wanted to drown, make it look like an accident.

I had a classmate who survived a suicide attempt, talked about that in class, once, what it was like…what had driven her to do it. In her case, I think she had been sexually abused, as well.

I hope I will never have to go through the pain of having a family member commit suicide. It must be heartbreaking.
 
My father’s father, my grandfather, took his own life after the death of my grandmother. He lived with us for a while, but he could never get used to the noise we kids made, nor could he forget his wife, accept the loss/sale of his house, or the pain of his arthritis. He was 90 and felt there was no point in going on.

My father was very angry. He would ask, “What was he trying to do, wreck our house?”

My mother used to see him standing in the basement, laughing at her. She was probably near a nervous breakdown.

As a small child, I did not fully understand and do not remember being particularly sad (I was sad and upset because the adults around me were sad and upset. I did not then grasp the seeming finality of death the way I do now.), but since I was named after him I often had the occasion to see my own name upon a tombstone. Perhaps it’s one of the reasons thoughts of suicide come easily to me, because they have been there from almost my earliest years. It’s probably also in my genes, but then, meh . . . who really knows? . . . :rolleyes:
 
Nine times out of time, I think, suicides is committed by someone not in their right mind. They can’t see straight. They can’t thing straight. They don’t have the cognitive processes at that moment to even process selfish/unselfish, though each person’s situation is a little different.

Sometimes psychosis is involved. I think alcohol is often involved.
 
A second cousin who suffered from depression died at her own hand many years ago. She was a very kind and sweet person. My father-in-law ended his life when he got a diagnosis of terminal cancer. He was not Catholic, and Christian in name only.
 
The suicide rate is high among our military which is sad and has risen among the general population as well which is alarming. Sometimes it is hard to control thoughts. They become distorted or we just don’t have the tools to change our way of thinking.
 
One of my brothers committed suicide when we were teenagers. Our parents were physically and emotionally abusive and my dad especially focused a lot of his derision and anger on my brother and tried to “toughen him up” since he was sort of a passive kid and not really into what my dad considered “manly” things. So, after a particularly awful incident, my brother went on a walk one afternoon with my dad’s gun and didn’t come back.

I’ve never blamed him for that, even though I would give anything for him to still be alive. I don’t believe it was his fault. He was just a kid and our situation was pretty screwed up, and my dad might as well have pulled the trigger himself as far as I’m concerned and all the family members and community members who knew what was going on and said nothing deserve a little bit of the blame as well. Blaming my parents and all the anger attached to that was what ultimately led to me leaving home early and making a normal life for myself away from them, I just wish it hadn’t come at my brother’s expense. For a long time, I blamed myself for not being able to help him or say just the right thing to make him reconsider and decide to try to stick around a little longer. I know intellectually that there was no way I could have known what he was going to do and probably nothing I could have done, but sometimes I wonder if he would still be alive if I had just offered to walk with him that day or something.

I don’t believe in life after death, personally, but on the occasions where I think about the possibility that I’m wrong, I just hope he’s happier wherever he is now. He deserves to be.
 
I don’t believe in life after death, personally, but on the occasions where I think about the possibility that I’m wrong, I just hope he’s happier wherever he is now. He deserves to be.
Have you ever read up on near death experiences Tech? Might make you think a bit…The stories are pretty interesting.
 
One of my brothers committed suicide when we were teenagers. Our parents were physically and emotionally abusive and my dad especially focused a lot of his derision and anger on my brother and tried to “toughen him up” since he was sort of a passive kid and not really into what my dad considered “manly” things. So, after a particularly awful incident, my brother went on a walk one afternoon with my dad’s gun and didn’t come back.

I’ve never blamed him for that, even though I would give anything for him to still be alive. I don’t believe it was his fault. He was just a kid and our situation was pretty screwed up, and my dad might as well have pulled the trigger himself as far as I’m concerned and all the family members and community members who knew what was going on and said nothing deserve a little bit of the blame as well. Blaming my parents and all the anger attached to that was what ultimately led to me leaving home early and making a normal life for myself away from them, I just wish it hadn’t come at my brother’s expense. For a long time, I blamed myself for not being able to help him or say just the right thing to make him reconsider and decide to try to stick around a little longer. I know intellectually that there was no way I could have known what he was going to do and probably nothing I could have done, but sometimes I wonder if he would still be alive if I had just offered to walk with him that day or something.

I don’t believe in life after death, personally, but on the occasions where I think about the possibility that I’m wrong, I just hope he’s happier wherever he is now. He deserves to be.
That is some real stuff, right there. WOW
I am speechless, thank you for sharing that story.
Its to bad that you’re now an atheist, former catholic looking; from my point of view. I have about 50% of the old faith I used to have. I’m almost where you are, spiritually I would say. Did you ever try looking into other christian denominations for the salvation and stuff or relationship with God ?
during your struggles ?
 
Sometimes, it takes some very sensitive ultra-aware persons to see danger signs in people. It’s not easy to see it coming. Some people give out more signs for others, but a fair number are kind of low key and seem pretty inconspicuous to the casual observer.
 
My younger brother committed suicide several years ago. He left behind a wife and 3 teenage children. It was a horrible time for my 84 year old Mother. My other siblings all struggled deeply with it. Our faith is what got us through it. Our trust in the mercy of our Lord enabled us to accept it and deal with it. We just recently lost our older sister to illness. All the memories came flooding back. I had to tell my 91 year old mother that my sister had passed. Seeing the pain on Mom’s face was too much. Grieving and mourning are necessary. Praying is the answer.

God Bless you.
 
Have you ever read up on near death experiences Tech? Might make you think a bit…The stories are pretty interesting.
I haven’t. It’s a subject that’s just hard for me to think rationally about. Like pianistclare’s daughters, I grew up thinking that suicides go automatically to hell. I know now that’s not really what the Church teaches, but for a long time I just couldn’t think about it without getting angry and it’s a hard habit to break. I might look into it, at some point, though, I’ve heard about a couple of experiments in passing here and there.
Its to bad that you’re now an atheist, former catholic looking; from my point of view. I have about 50% of the old faith I used to have. I’m almost where you are, spiritually I would say. Did you ever try looking into other christian denominations for the salvation and stuff or relationship with God ?
during your struggles ?
Not really. My parents used religion to justify their behavior a lot and that plus the situation with my brother just sort of killed the whole idea of a merciful God for me at the time and zapped my capacity for faith in pretty much anything. I didn’t get to forming a more rational decision about believing or not believing until much later after I had gotten into college, gotten some therapy, and calmed down some. I’m pretty happy with where I am now on the whole, but it’s complicated. There are things I miss about the Church as a cultural Catholic and I’ve thought about giving it another try now and then, but I don’t think it would work out.
 
Not really. My parents used religion to justify their behavior a lot and that plus the situation with my brother just sort of killed the whole idea of a merciful God for me at the time and zapped my capacity for faith in pretty much anything. I didn’t get to forming a more rational decision about believing or not believing until much later after I had gotten into college, gotten some therapy, and calmed down some. I’m pretty happy with where I am now on the whole, but it’s complicated. There are things I miss about the Church as a cultural Catholic and I’ve thought about giving it another try now and then, but I don’t think it would work out.
I hope it works out for you. I do not have 100% faith, I do not believe in personal relationship with Christ, or that prayers get answered.
But I believe in God; I hope, that what ever path you search out works out for you.
 
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