Has your child/teen been excluded from a Catholic School

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They were in mainstream since 7 issues socially but chugged on. Were doing well. Keeping friends now, few months behaviour disruptive after plans Plans punishing excluding excluded not expelled told to find new schooll or they will help. Wow! Didn’t a judge rule against a school in the U.K. For excluding a 13yo ASD?
 
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I live in Indiana, a state that accepts vouchers (taxdollars to pay tuition to private schools). The Catholic schools do NOT have to accept students on the spectrum (or really any student they don’t want.) This adds a whole other layer of unfairness in that the Catholic schools are draining money from the public schools. The Catholic schools often won’t/can’t take those that are the most expensive to educate and leave that to the public school with far fewer dollars to do it with.
 
Free I imagine it would depend on what was meant by disruptive behaviour and what strategies could potentially help.
 
Addressing the needs of kids with learning/emotional/mental conditions requires staff with the right training and education themselves. Simply loving their students and desiring to teach them is not enough.

Most Catholic schools in the US are underfunded. Parishioners no longer support the parishes and schools they way that they did in times past, or as they do in the Wichita Diocese.

These are not special needs, they are human needs that require special accommodations. The way to change things is to roll up ones sleeves and get involved.

Go to school and become a teacher, specialize in teaching those with disabilities, make ASD your speciality. Then, go and teach at a Catholic School, knowing that you will receive less salary than you would at a public or private secular school.

Subsidize the cost of a teacher and an aide for those with ASD or other disabilities at your parish school. Start a foundation to do this across your Diocese.

Change begins with just one person.
 
Parents arranged external support for schooll. Behaviour started 3 months ago, I have been told that by a lot of people. Giving these kids that have been in mainstream all their life a punishment behaviour plan has set them up to fail. These institutions are smart though, parents believe they can never argue, so they are forced to leave when there is no evidence based clinical evidence that supported the claim. Also against the recommendation of psychologists. Catholics have a lot to answer for. Some of these students are actually Catholic. The Pope should lead. The marketing on the website in Australia is so professional and refers to how they are creating a positive partnership with parents, teaches, students that have ASD/Disabilities. Why isn’t this being put in to practice. In U.K. Last week, they ruled against a school that excluded a student. Australia should be looking to do the same. If a child with special needs can not cope in mainstream and the clinical support stipulate this, that is fair. Why exclude or disrupt the life of a child that can?
 
…so it is called a “punishment behavior plan?”
It sounds like nobody is looking at what happened 3 months ago to set this behavior off.
Is nobody taking data on this behavior?
You seem to be getting thos information as a third party…
 
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I live in Indiana, a state that accepts vouchers (taxdollars to pay tuition to private schools). The Catholic schools do NOT have to accept students on the spectrum (or really any student they don’t want.) This adds a whole other layer of unfairness in that the Catholic schools are draining money from the public schools. The Catholic schools often won’t/can’t take those that are the most expensive to educate and leave that to the public school with far fewer dollars to do it with.
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How is a Catholic school draining money from public school if it is educating a child with that money? Parents of Catholic school students pay taxes into the school system. If they all attended public school, the money would still not “be there” because it would be used to educate those students.

I don’t know about Your state, but anywhere we have lived, Catholic schools struggle with less money than public schools. Still, their students score better on standardized tests than public school students.
 
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The “cost per student” number that you always see isn’t really the cost per student, it is the total budget divided by the number of students. To illastrate this, if you just had 1 student and their $9k the school wouldn’t be able to provide a math teacher, a English teacher, a Chemistry teacher, etc. In fact they wouldn’t be able to provide a single teacher at all for the 1 student.
At the other extreme, if you have a school of 1,000 students happily chugging along educating those 1k students and 1 chooses to take $8k (voucher isn’t 100%) away from their school and take it to the Catholic school, they public is pretty much out that $8k. The school still has to maintain all the teachers it had before, the janitors, the electricity, etc. There is virtually no reduction in cost for that one student leaving. (In Indiana, it is the family of public school students that pays for books and materials, so no reduction in cost for the school there either).

The Catholic school I am most familiar with in Indiana is NOT hurting for money. Last year the had $4 million less in spending than revenue, yet accepted $1.6million in vouchers.

The Catholic families do pay in taxes, absolutely. I have done the math though and the vouchers are way more than they could conceviably pay in. They are more than welcome to put their child into their local public any time they wish, the opposite isn’t necessarraly true.

I only really do know about Indiana, but I have yet to find a Catholic school where the families there aren’t a LOT wealthier than the families of their public school that they would otherwise attend.

Yes, the test scores of the Catholics are MUCH higher than their nearby publics. But, only you control for the socio-economic status of the families, that difference disappears entirely. That holds true here and nationally. The dirty little secret of education is that the public are actually doing a slight (very slight) better job educating when you compare apples to apples. I know that I only used a tiny sample, but the R^2 value for the correlation between poverty and test scores is actually slightly higher for the Catholic schools in my city than the publics.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/
 
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I imagine the issue is whether the or not the student actually can cope in mainstream, this child’s parents said he could cope but the school said he couldn’t, and at what cost, I knew several who were injured by the child.

The issues that were triggering him (school environment) couldn’t be changed as it was an 8 class per year school with lots of noise and overcrowding.

You can try and make it work but you won’t always be successful.
 
ETA. I re-read your post. I believe that you are asking specifically about the UK.

This is a document from UK Bishops and some more resources that Google turned up:


http://nbria.org.uk/disability/

Simply calling your Bishops office and asking about Disability Policies might be a good idea.

Is there a specific situation that you are experienceing in a school?

The US the USCCB has established the NCPD

http://www.ncpd.org/

This website has a wealth of information.
 
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You still haven’t made it clear what the difficult behaviour is. It’s impossible for anyone here to come to an opinion on the school’s response without knowing what was actually happening to lead up to an exclusion.
 
The behaviour wasn’t across all classes, home, part time job, community support. It was witnessed in 2 classes or where they are anxious, Noises, defiant will not move when asked, singled out a lot, behaviour is consistent with all other kids but consequences escalate for this student. Wasn’t allowed to use sensory support in some classes. Followed when have time out. No aggression, violence or physical amuse
 
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I would suggest that you contact the Diocese office on Disabilities. Take your child’s medical records, their school records, and talk to them.

In the US, most Catholic schools do not have the resources nor the trained staff to offer “special ed”. That is slowly changing, but, it will take time and a great deal of involvement from committed parents/educators and adults.

I am sorry your child’s Catholic School experience has been negative.
 
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