Has your parish done anything about the new translations yet?

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I just got back from Mass, and my pastor was saying that beginning next weekend we will start practicing the new translations. This should be interesting!
 
I am glad that the pastor at the church will give us some instruction before Mass starts. He said he will do so before Mass begins for the next few months. Yes, we will get the bulletin inserts to read also.
 
Other than using this as an opportunity to go over the theology of the Mass I don’t see a huge need to be practicing it. After you practice it you’re going to be saying the current Mass responses so I don’t see how that would be helpful.
For the first few months people and the priests are simply going to have their heads burried in pages. But everyone will slowly get used to it and over time it’ll become memorized.
 
NewEnglandPries said:
Other than using this as an opportunity to go over the theology of the Mass I don’t see a huge need to be practicing it. After you practice it you’re going to be saying the current Mass responses so I don’t see how that would be helpful.
For the first few months people and the priests are simply going to have their heads burried in pages. But everyone will slowly get used to it and over time it’ll become memorized.
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I don’t think ‘practicing’ is necessary in our parish. Most people have their noses in their ‘Sunday Missal’ or ‘Living with Christ’ and read the responses still after 35 years – that is unlikely to change in the next 8 weeks. Come the First Sunday of Advent, they’ll still be reading the responses.

I think it’s important to explain ‘why’ the changes are happening. That will go a long way to decreasing the complaining we are bound to hear over the next several months, you know, those complaints about such as “Things are ALWAYS changing! Why don’t they make up their minds. Yada, yada, yada”.
 
Yes,
There have been bulletin inserts over the past weeks, and there will be a workshop given (it will be given at 2 different times) over the next weeks
 
CatholicZ09 said:
I just flipped through my bulletin from last week and checked out the insert, and we have the same thing going on. It’s called “A Biblical Walk Through the Mass,” which will be a six week study. This sounds interesting. I might attend. I’m just wondering, though, if they will mention anything during the announcements before/after Mass.
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You seem hard to please. You asked your priest and didn’t like his response. (Maybe you both were having bad days). But when you find that there are indeed inserts in your bulletin and a class being planned, you say you *might *attend.

This is the kind of action that causes priests to “snarl” when asked questions – a parishioner who asks for all kinds of info after Mass (when the priest is busy), but then doesn’t attend the sessions set up.

Why don’t you go? Encourage others to go also. Be part of making the transition smooth at your parish!
 
Phemie said:
I think it’s important to explain ‘why’ the changes are happening. That will go a long way to decreasing the complaining we are bound to hear over the next several months, you know, those complaints about such as “Things are ALWAYS changing! Why don’t they make up their minds. Yada, yada, yada”.
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I don’t think explaining the why is going to change much of the complaining. It might lower the volume but most people still respond: “All the problems in the Church and this is what they focused on?”
 
We have had bulletin inserts for some time, deanary and parish training sessions/workshops, and have now started incorporating some of the new translation into our current Mass structure. Our Bishop has given permission to start phasing the new translations into our Mass, so today we started with the new Gloria. Every few weeks we are going to add something else from the new translation, so by the time Advent rolls around we will be ready to put the final piece in and have the entire Mass ready to go.
 
CatholicZ09 said:
I am hoping for something like this for the lectors at my parish. Right now I’m just going over them by myself. I do think, however, that it’s more useful to altar servers since they’re the youngest out of all of us, so it’s better for them to learn all the material so that they aren’t unresponsive.
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In most parishes, the altar servers are the only ones that have to know the responses “by heart” since they can’t follow along with the missalette like the rest of us. 🙂 They are also the only ones who have a specific obligation to make the responses “out loud”. So, it makes sense that they get some early training.
 
Mrs_Sally said:
You seem hard to please. You asked your priest and didn’t like his response. (Maybe you both were having bad days). But when you find that there are indeed inserts in your bulletin and a class being planned, you say you *might *attend.

This is the kind of action that causes priests to “snarl” when asked questions – a parishioner who asks for all kinds of info after Mass (when the priest is busy), but then doesn’t attend the sessions set up.

Why don’t you go? Encourage others to go also. Be part of making the transition smooth at your parish!
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I’m sorry, but you really misread. I wasn’t the one that asked my priest about the changes. That was a different poster.

I don’t see what the issue is with my use of the verb might. This doesn’t mean that I am unsatisfied with the way they are approaching the new translations. I think that it’s great that we can get a detailed program about it, but I was just wondering if anything was going to be done before Masses in the coming weeks. I do plan on attending the course.

There was really no harm meant in my post. 🤷
 
Our pastor talked about it at the end of Mass this morning. He said we were supposed to be starting it at the beginning of Advent this year, however, the bishops gave permission for pastors to begin in September. But our parish will be starting in October. He asked everybody to attend the Wednesday night sessions (he has talks every Wednesday night. This Wednesday will be on the new translations) and he will talking about it and going over the responses then.
 
CatholicZ09 said:
I’m sorry, but you really misread. I wasn’t the one that asked my priest about the changes. That was a different poster.

I don’t see what the issue is with my use of the verb might. This doesn’t mean that I am unsatisfied with the way they are approaching the new translations. I think that it’s great that we can get a detailed program about it, but I was just wondering if anything was going to be done before Masses in the coming weeks. I do plan on attending the course.

There was really no harm meant in my post. 🤷
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Yes, I got you mixed up with another poster. Sorry.
 
corsair said:
Not a thing but I got “snarled at” by my pastor when I asked that there be some dialog between the clergy and laity. He said he didn’t care for my tone of voice. I apologized.

I truly didn’t think that I voiced any disrespect. I certainly didn’t intend any.

It still doesn’t address my concern that absolutely no discussion has taken place, even when directly asked of the priests. Still total silence.
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Father Snarley seems to be your cross to bear. You have the right to make known your spiritual needs, and desires according to Canon 212 §2:

CIC Canon 212 §1. Conscious of their own responsibility, the Christian faithful are bound to follow with Christian obedience those things which the sacred pastors, inasmuch as they represent Christ, declare as teachers of the faith or establish as rulers of the Church.

§2. The Christian faithful are free to make known to the pastors of the Church their needs, especially spiritual ones, and their desires.

§3. According to the knowledge, competence, and prestige which they possess, they have the right and even at times the duty to manifest to the sacred pastors their opinion on matters which pertain to the good of the Church and to make their opinion known to the rest of the Christian faithful, without prejudice to the integrity of faith and morals, with reverence toward their pastors, and attentive to common advantage and the dignity of persons.
 
corsair said:
Not a thing but I got “snarled at” by my pastor when I asked that there be some dialog between the clergy and laity. He said he didn’t care for my tone of voice. I apologized.

I truly didn’t think that I voiced any disrespect. I certainly didn’t intend any.

It still doesn’t address my concern that absolutely no discussion has taken place, even when directly asked of the priests. Still total silence.
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Unless you know your pastor extremely well, it is most likely that you were parishioner number 102 to bring this up and he thought you were joining the chorus of complaints. Don’t take it personally.

If your parish is like mine, most of the people who spoke to father were complaining. Your priest probably thought you meant something like “Don’t we have any say in this? Do we *have to *make these changes?” instead of “How can we, the laity, *help you *to make this a smooth transition?” which is what I am sure you meant.
 
Since our priest is a member of the Archdiocese’s committee on the implementation of the new translation, he started last year. A lecture about the changes by a nun/professor from one of the seminaries, tidbits in our bulletin, once in awhile a mention in the Homily, “A Walk Through the Mass”, by Dr Sri in our Lighthouse Media display, and now, 7 weeks of lecture starting on Oct 3rd till Nov 14th.

This is what our bulletin says: “We’ll be using the book, “Mystical Body, Mystical Voice: Encountering Christ in the Words of the Mass”. We’ll read/discuss nature and meaning of Catholic liturgy, the meaning and nature of sacrament and sign, the nature of the Catholic Mass and the history and meaning of the prayers in the Mass.”

Our priest loves to teach and discuss, so I’m looking forward to the lectures.
 
Not a dot nor a dash. Our former Priest at a new parish has had informational front covers on their weekly bulletins. I’ve seen them on-line and they seem very helpful.****
 
No our priest has not done anything as of today. When I told the secretary that we were going to discuss it with the Confirmation group, she said that Father was going to have classes. 🤷 Others in the CCD program also intend to discuss it with their classes.
 
Our pastor just announced that there will be several avenues of explanation coming between now and Advent, and that in his opinion this represented the most significant change in the liturgy in 40 years. He described it as a translation from the same Latin original as before, but a much more literal and complete translation than before. That’s about it.
 
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