Hasn't the lds church undergone its own great apostasy

[Bill_Pick]

Yes it has both as to doctrine and membership, and this Church is not yet 150 years old. . There are many groups claiming to originate from Joseph Smith and they seem hopelessly divided. They accuse each other of being heretical and of espousing doctrines that are not of Joseph. For example of the Reorganized LDS Church denies the doctrines of a plurality of Gods, polygamy and baptism for the dead, all major teachings of the Utah Church.What is your thinking

 

[BrianH]

Great question. There is no doubt that many groups claim to follow the correct teachings. I am curious why you are using the RLDS instead of their new name; Community of Christ?
I have stood at the Independence Temple Lot and pondered the same question.

 

[Marie5890]

It’s a very fair statement to say that the LDS church as it now is and many of its present day dogmas are quite different from what was originally taught by JSmith, BYoung and other of their early church leadership.

With their claim of the great apostasy being based on their belief that, after the last of the Apostles died, much of the original teachings of Christ and the Aposltes were altered/changed , it would be a fair observation to claim that they too have fallen into apostasy.

If you are going by that sort of standard. IE lack of change and evolving dogmas.

Just my observation.

 

[Catholic20064]

Yes it has both as to doctrine and membership, and this Church is not yet 150 years old. . There are many groups claiming to originate from Joseph Smith and they seem hopelessly divided. They accuse each other of being heretical and of espousing doctrines that are not of Joseph. For example of the Reorganized LDS Church denies the doctrines of a plurality of Gods, polygamy and baptism for the dead, all major teachings of the Utah Church.What is your thinking

The apostasy is mainly about priesthood authority, not doctrine. In that respect, the LDS Church can probably make a better claim to authority than any of the other groups. The Community of Christ claim could also be strong, but they themselves don’t put a lot of stock in that any longer. The Community of Christ is essentially dying as an LDS group – they tend to just see themselves as Protestant now.

 

[Marie5890]

The apostasy is mainly about priesthood authority, not doctrine. In that respect, the LDS Church can probably make a better claim to authority than any of the other groups. The Community of Christ claim could also be strong, but they themselves don’t put a lot of stock in that any longer. The Community of Christ is essentially dying as an LDS group – they tend to just see themselves as Protestant now.

This is just a very general statement because I dont know much about all of the various splinter groups.

To my knowledge the polygamist splinter groups would claim that with the doing away with polygamy (known as new and everlasting covenant of marriage according to DC 132) the main LDS church had fallen into apostasy.

Its a well known fact that JSmith, BYoung and the early church leaders were polygamists.

That certainly has been a change from the original teachings of Smith, Young, etc.

That is of course if you use the standard of dogmas changing and evolving as a sign of apostasy.

 

[pismopal]

Don’t you first need to be a Church…not a gathering of people who have a belief but the Church?

 

[Bill_Pick]

The apostasy is mainly about priesthood authority, not doctrine. In that respect, the LDS Church can probably make a better claim to authority than any of the other groups. The Community of Christ claim could also be strong, but they themselves don’t put a lot of stock in that any longer. The Community of Christ is essentially dying as an LDS group – they tend to just see themselves as Protestant now.

How are they going to group in with all the other Prostestants,they do not believe in the Trinity and many other thing that are not Christian