Hate Halloween: It glorifies death, It honors Satan and demons and it is ungodly.

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Ref:II Chronicles 33:6, I Corinthians 10:20; Psalm 78:49; I Peter 5:8, I Corinthians 15:26., II Chronicles 33:12-13, II Chronicles 33:6, 10-11Deuteronomy 18:9-12, Isaiah 8:19-20; Galatians 5:20; Revelation 21:8, Acts 19:13-16, Acts 13:6-11, Exodus 22:18, 1 Peter 1:16
 
Halloween originally meant hallowed or holy, eve. It is the eve of a great feast day in the Church: All Saints Day. Of course, when a great feast is being celebrated with the outpouring of many graces, Satan is very quick to distort and destroy. So the true meaning of Halloween has been lost to many.
However, in the true spirit of Halloween, many Catholic youth groups have an All Saints celebration instead of the cultural Halloween.
The children dress up as their favorite Saint, and the life of the Saint is retold and remembered.

It is not very difficult to imagine how this holy day became so distorted and the true meaning lost to many. Look at the great high feasts of Christmas and Easter! If we are not vigilant as Christians, a few hundred years from now, the vast majority of society may have forgotten all about the centrality of the Life, Death, and Resurrection of Christ, and be thinking that the “holiday”(holy day) only means Santa and the Easter Bunny.

God Bless!
To Jesus, through Mary
 
I think it’s great when kids dress up as scary ghouls and ghosts. It shows that Christ has ultimate power over all of evil, and as such, it’s so harmless we dress up as it, almost as if to mock the demons 🙂
 
Oh jeez… lighten up! :rolleyes: I trick-or-treated as a kid and somehow didn’t end up a satanist.
 
I think it’s great when kids dress up as scary ghouls and ghosts. It shows that Christ has ultimate power over all of evil, and as such, it’s so harmless we dress up as it, almost as if to mock the demons 🙂
True enough, but does anyone really know the true meaning of All Hollow’s Eve? How many children dress up on this day without even knowing what it really means? And the same for Easter and Christmas. I don’t see any harm in it though, but still, people should at least know the true meaning of these Holy Days. Just my :twocents:
 
I hate credit cards: they glorify usury, they honor greed and materialism and they are ungodly. I also hate birthdays: they glorify self-centeredness, they honor self-indulgence and acquisitiveness and are also ungodly. I hate movies: they glorify idleness, they honor frivilousness and self-indulgence and are ungodly. Everything is evil and no one should do anything. :rolleyes:
 
Like a lot of things that have passed through the secular filter (sometimes Protestant culture, sometimes a post-Christian culture, or both) the true meaning is distorted. So yes, we have Santa Claus recognized even all across China!.. but not the saintly bishop Nicholas of Myra.


Most of these transformations are not complete disasters, Halloween is a lot of fun for children, and with the off street parties most towns have it’s really not so bad. 🙂

I don’t consider it a recruiting ground for Satanists, or demon worship or anything like that. But it does have that commercial value, and everyone is looking for ways to make a buck! (Which also explains why St Joseph statues sell so well in a tough real estate market, it has little to do with spirituality).

So I think if we are going to look at the culture overall, and what has happened to our old traditions we have bigger things to worry about than Halloween. :rolleyes:

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I am disappointed how Fat Tuesday, or Carnival, has been distorted in so many places too. It was never meant to be a hedonfest for young adults with too much in the way of hormones to control responsibly.



But most of those locations had large devout Catholic populations originally, at least for a while (the Spanish and French in the Caribbean), the change came when the larger non-Catholic and irreverant community succeeded them and adopted the holiday to their own purposes.

But in it’s origins one can see Christian higher ideals: With the oncoming long strict fast, one last gathering with friends to finish off the meat and the wine and the oil.

How things have changed. Oh well… :compcoff:
 
Like a lot of things that have passed through the secular filter (sometimes Protestant culture, sometimes a post-Christian culture, or both) the true meaning is distorted. So yes, we have Santa Claus now recognized even all across China, I have seen this myself!.. but sadly, not the saintly bishop Nicholas of Myra.


Most of these transformations are not complete disasters, Halloween is a lot of fun for children, and with the off street parties most towns have it’s really not so bad. 🙂

I don’t consider it a recruiting ground for Satanists, or demon worship or anything like that. But it does have that commercial value, and everyone is looking for ways to make a buck! (Which also explains why St Joseph statues sell so well in a tough real estate market, it has little to do with spirituality).

So I think if we are going to look at the culture overall, and what has happened to our old traditions we have bigger things to worry about than Halloween. :rolleyes:

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I am disappointed how Fat Tuesday, or Carnival, has been distorted in so many places too. It was never meant to be a hedonfest for young adults with too much in the way of hormones to control responsibly.

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But most of those locations had large devout Catholic populations originally, at least for a while (the Spanish and French in the Caribbean), the change came when the larger irreverant community succeeded them and adopted the holiday to their own purposes.

But in it’s origins one can see Christian higher ideals: With the oncoming long strict fast, one last gathering with friends to finish off the meat and the wine and the oil.

How things have changed. Oh well… :compcoff:
 
You should rephrase your statement as ‘I hate the secularization of Halloween…’ Halloween is the vigil of All Saints Day. But the secularization of Halloween - turning it into a day of fright and trickortreating - is indeed a glorification of death and evil, albeit not a deadly one. However, not everyone glorifies death on Halloween: some just go door to door for the candy, dressed up as someone or something they might funny, cool, or crazy. Even the practice of dressing up comes from Christianity, for in the earlier days Christians would dress up as saints and go door to door, exchanging holy cards for candy or something else.
 
Whatever the origins or history of Halloween, Halloween is celebrated in many different ways by all sorts of people around the world. Traditionally, it was known as All Hallows’ Eve, when the dead were remembered. Over time, it became cultural. For Americans, it has become extremely commercialized. We begin to see Halloween decorations in the stores as early as August. Unfortunately, the emphasis on this commercialized holiday has shifted from the little cowboys and Indians to a much more evil and pointed attraction to all things hideous and pagan. Satan has undoubtedly made this commercialized holiday into something that has subtly focused on the ugly and demonic.

Many believe the festival of Samhain to have been the beginning of the Celtic year. At Samhain, farmers brought livestock in from summer pastures and people gathered to build shelters for winter. The festival also had religious significance and people burned fruits, vegetables, grain, and possibly animals as offerings to the gods. In ancient Celtic stories, Samhain was a magical time of transition when important battles were fought and fairies cast spells. It was a time when the barriers between the natural world and the supernatural were broken. The Celts believed that the dead could walk among the living at this time. During Samhain, the living could visit with the dead, who they believed held secrets of the future. Scholars believe that Halloween’s association with ghosts, food, and fortune telling began with these pagan customs more than 2,000 years ago.

Many of the customs of the pagan Celts survived even after the people became “Christianized.” In the 800’s A.D., the church established All Saints’ Day on November 1. About two hundred years later, it added All Souls’ Day on November 2. This day was set aside for people to pray for friends and family who had died. People made many of the old pagan customs part of this Christian holy day. Some people put out food for their ancestors, or they left a lantern burning in the window so that ghosts could find their way home for the night. Through the years, various regions of Europe developed their own Halloween customs. In Wales, for example, each person put a white stone near the Halloween fire at night and then checked in the morning to see whether the stone was still there. If it was, the person would live another year.

In the United States, many early American settlers came from England and they brought various beliefs about ghosts and witches with them. In the 1800’s, many immigrants from Ireland and Scotland arrived in the United States and introduced their Halloween traditions. Other groups added their own cultural influences to Halloween customs. German immigrants brought a vivid witchcraft lore, and Haitian and African peoples brought their native voodoo beliefs about black cats, fire, and witchcraft.
gotquestions.org/Halloween-origin.html
 
Halloween is the conflux of three different things, not necessarily related.

The first is the tradition of fancy dress and Trick-or-Treating;

It originated in protestant England after the failure of the Guy Fawlks/ gunpowder plot, to blow up the Houses of Parliament, in the year 1605. English protestants began visiting Catholic homes at night dressed in costumes as disguise and generally shouting and making noise and demanding cakes and beer from the Catholic household before moving on to the next one.

The next unrelated thing was of pure Irish origin;

Just a bit of backround first, about 11 or 12 thousand years ago Ireland was covered in an ice-sheet, in places two miles thick, glaciers flowed through the land grinding away mountains, one mountain called Sliabh An Iariann was estimated to have been higher than Mount Everest before the Ice-Age. Rivers were created anew with new courses and new valleys were carved out of the land by the glaciers. As the ice retreated peoples moved across the land bridges into Ireland. The first people to inhabit Ireland were the Mesolithic people around 10,000 years ago. Ireland has been inhabited ever since with several waves of races arriving at different times. This is not like modern America who has a history going back only 200 years. By the time the first missionary monks arrived in Ireland around 400AD they found a country which had been largely isolated from all the large scale influences that continuously swept across Continental Europe. Ireland had a history and a culture which was almost undisturbed from the time the first people had arrived. I think it was Pliny the Elder in 48AD who described Ireland from rumour as “that dark island”. So the monks, who loved stories, set about recording the culture of the people they lived among. The Irish up till then did not have a written language but passed their knowledge of geneology, astronomy, medicine and especially song and poetry to what we would call Bards, I suppose, these were selected children trained in types of colleges. With no written language it took a child 12 years to memorize all this knowledge. The monks started recording their stories and poetry and genealogies around 400AD, or in the last years of the Iron-Age in Ireland. One of the several waves of races and the last to arrive in Ireland during its history were a race of people called the Milesians. The Milesians arrived around 500BC - 1000BC, or, in other words, before the beginning of the Iron-Age in Ireland and about half way through the Bronze-Age in Ireland. The Bronze-Age in Ireland began around 2000BC. Now the monks as I was saying recorded at the end of the Iron-Age in 400AD stories and such-like which had been passed from generation to generation by a class of scholar/Bard. To give you an idea of this continuity of knowledge, I can say that Amergin, brother of Heber, was the earliest of Milesian poets who lived 500BC. Thats kind of surprising, but we can go even further; the Milesians lived during the middle to late bronze-age but around 4000 years ago at 2000BC we have the beginning of the Bronze-Age in Ireland and before that we’ve got the Stone-Age in Ireland. So What about the history and stories that were preserved. Befor the Milesians that was an earlier race called the Tutha de Dannan. These were tall, fair, red-headed people of noble aspect who the stories tell us had better weapons (spears) than the race of people they encountered when they arrived in Ireland, the Fir Bolg. The Tuatha de Dannan so the stories handed down to the christian monks go, arrived in a cloud on top of Sliabh An Iariann, the mountain mentioned earlier.

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This bit is my speculation now; Sliabh An Iariann means in English Mountain of Iron, and there are ancient iron mines in the mountain; so putting two and two together I speculate that the cloud on the Iron mountain which the Tuatha De Dannan arrived in was in fact one one the most distingusable and memorable features of this new race of invaders and could be smoke from furnaces smelting iron ore, there also being coal on the iron mountain, that coupled with the stories that the Tuatha De Dannan had superior and lighter spears that the Fir Bolg I speculate that the Tuatha De Dannan were the first of the Iron Age people; and that the Fir Bolg were the early Bronze-Age people who preceeded them. The histories tell us that the Fir Bolg were defeated in a huge battle by the Tuatha De Dannan and were given the west of Ireland. Their King at that time was Aengus and he brought them to Inismore, the largest of the Aran Islands off the west coast. There, Aengus built a spectacular stone fort called Dun Aengus, which still exists.
So now we are back in the Bronze-Age around 500BC. The Fir Bolg have now become the Bronze-Age peoples, the Bronze-Age having started in 2000BC in Ireland. Before the Fir Bolg arrived in Ireland however history records, in the form of stories, that another race of people lived here called the Nemedians. The Nemedians arrived in Ireland in 2350BC, or, if you like, during the Stone-Age in Ireland. When the Nemedians arrived they found anothe race already living there called the Formorians. The Formorians were a pirate race from North Africa who had a fortress on Tory Island off the North West coast of Ireland, and from which they terrorised everyone around. Nemed son of Agnoman was their leader. His wife, Macha, died twelve days after Nemed arrived in Ireland and she was burried in Ard Macha, in English, Armagh, later to become famous as the Archdiocese founded by St Patrick in the mid 5th century. Nemed faught the Formorians at the Battle of Ros Fraechan and defeated them killing two of their kings Gann and Sengann. After Nemed died his people were oppressed by the Formorians who lived in Conands Tower on Tory Island. Two thirds of their children their wheat and milk had to be given to the Formorians every Samhain. After 207 years the Nemedians revolted led by Semul son of Iarbonel the Soothsayer, Erglan son of Beoan son of Starn, and Nemed’s son Fergus Red-Side. So now we are in the Stone-Age in Ireland 4350 years ago.
The Partholons lived in Ireland before the Nemedians, they arrived about 5000 years ago or 3000BC. Partholón was the son of Sera, son of Sru, a descendant of Magog. The stories related to the later monks recalled that the Partholons brought ploughs and oxen, dariy farming, husbandry, houses and ale and are said to have burried their dead in ‘long graves’ in ‘stone heaps’. This accords very well with prehistoric archeology which shows that the first farmers arrived in Ireland 5000 years ago or in 3000BC. In archeology they are called the Neolithic people, the cleared the mountain tops of oak forrest with stone tools and farmed the land building passage tombs for their dead. Examples of the Partholons or Neolithics handywork are the Ceide fields in North Mayo and the massive tomb at newgrange built 1000 years before the pyramids in Egypt.
The people before the Partholons were hunter-gatherer Mesolithic, or middle Stone-Age, people who occupied Ireland from the end of the Ice-Age 10,000 years ago until the arrival of the Partholons 5000 years ago. The Annals of the Four Masters records that the name of these first inhabitants of Ireland was the Cessair, after the leader who brought them to Ireland, a woman called Cessair.
All of this is just to show the continuity of Irish prehistory, Samhain was the beginning of the New Year and also celebrated a successful harvest. That idea could only have begun because of the Partholons, or Neolithics having introduced farming and a subsequent 3000 years of gratitude to some god or other or to nature for a generous harvest to see them through to the next year. With the arrival of Christianity they finally discovered the identity of that generous god. They would have been total ingrates not to even have attempted to thank someone, I think.

As for another aspect of the Catholic Churches’ role in this conflux of all things halloween;

For early Christians in the Church they often celebrated the anniversary of martyrs. As the number of martyrs increased a particular day was set aside as a anniversary for them - the Sunday after pentecost. Saints were grdually also given their own feast days and thay too were given a single day as an anniversary.
Boniface IV, 13 May, 609, or 610, consecrated the Pantheon in Rome to the Blessed Virgin and all the martyrs, ordering an anniversary.
Gregory III (731-741) consecrated a chapel in the Basilica of St. Peter to all the saints and fixed the anniversary for 1 November.
A basilica of the Apostles already existed in Rome, and its dedication was annually remembered on 1 May.
Gregory IV (827-844) extended the celebration on 1 November to the entire Church.
 
Totally. When somebody says that halloween is Samhain and Samhain is devil worship it is a bit funny, where do they get their information, I cannot take it seriously either. The only history about Samhain is pre-history, recorded by monks from 400AD until 900AD, recording stories and myths from the Iron-Age or even the Bronze-Age. Nobody knows any details about Samhain.
 
Hi,

I attended Catholic parochial school in the Archdiocese of Chicago, IL from 1964 to 1972. I was taught by the teaching order Sisters of Mercy. They taught us the Catholic teaching on All Hallows Eve, All Saints, and All Souls. The kids had Halloween parties in class. Younger children were allowed to draw pumpkins, ghosts, bats, etc… Older kids (the eigth graders) could even carve jack o’laterns!

It makes me sad that something that was once a fun and innocent secular holiday has been turned into something evil by some people.

I think all Catholics should use Halloween as an opportunity to teach their childern about the meaning of All Hallows Eve, All Saints, and All Souls. The religious education program at my parish does and lets the kids dress up and have treats.

Jean
 
I LOVE HALLOWEEN! My wife and I have horror movie marathons, eat plenty of candy, carve jack-o-lanterns, our kids go with us to the pumpkin patch, and we have fun. Whoever posted this: relax, calm down, and lighten up!

With all the sickening and dastardly things in this country like abortion, gay marriage, rampant divorce, stem cell research, designer babies on the way, octo-moms, unemployment, and pornography, Halloween should be nowhere on your radar right now! LOL:shrug:
 
With all the sickening and dastardly things in this country like abortion, gay marriage, rampant divorce, stem cell research, designer babies on the way, octo-moms, unemployment, and pornography, Halloween should be nowhere on your radar right now! LOL:shrug:
+1.
 
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