Hats in church ok, hats in church not ok

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Why is it in the Catholic church; the old tradition states for women to cover their heads, but men do not. In the Jewish faith, men cover their head and woman do not.
This to me makes absoltueley no sense. Makes me question the very existance of faith and the sincerity of the orginization of religion in general. Being as such; When did God change his mind about hats? if Jews and Christians, both worship the God of abraham
Then why is there differn’t rules for head covering? On top of that, why does Jesus have long hair on a crucifix if we know that it is shameful for a Jew to have long hair in his time?
None of this makes sense to me.

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How about, its because we are Catholic and not Jewish. Works for me. 😉
 
I would say our tradition ( tradition with a small t) is cultural. G-d never changed His mind and said “women cover your heads now, men stop covering your heads.” I’m a converted Jew, I attended a hassidic synagogue and we covered our heads as a form of respect. Women covered their heads too sometimes. There was a huge scandal about a hundred years ago about men wearing neck ties to church because it was considered business wear and therefore not appropriate in the house of G-d.
 
You would let clothing choice shake your faith in Catholicism… really?

Also, it wasn’t shameful for Jew’s to have long hair. Where did you get that notion?
 
Jessup said:
Why is it in the Catholic church; the old tradition states for women to cover their heads, but men do not. In the Jewish faith, men cover their head and woman do not.
This to me makes absoltueley no sense. Makes me question the very existance of faith and the sincerity of the orginization of religion in general. Being as such; When did God change his mind about hats? if Jews and Christians, both worship the God of abraham
Then why is there differn’t rules for head covering? On top of that, why does Jesus have long hair on a crucifix if we know that it is shameful for a Jew to have long hair in his time?
None of this makes sense to me.

Cheers! 👍
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Orthodox Jewish women cover their hair. Most I’ve seen have been with scarves. Modesty is important for both Jews and Catholics.

I’m sorry that you are questioning existence of faith because of head coverings, particularly when you appear not to have the facts straight.

There are,however many differences between the old and new covenants. And many Jewish traditions did not evolve until after the time of Christ and are certainly not of any religious concern to us (although it is nice to know about other cultures!).
 
Whether or not people have hats, neckties and suits, their length of hair, or cargo shorts and sneakers on, doesn’t much mean a hill of beans to me if you’re there to worship the Lord. But that’s me.
 
ProdglArchitect said:
You would let clothing choice shake your faith in Catholicism… really?

Also, it wasn’t shameful for Jew’s to have long hair. Where did you get that notion?
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Jessup obviously does not know anything about judaism. At the time of Christ it was forbidden under Jewish Religious Law for men to either shave or cut their hair.
 
George_Stegmeir said:
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Jessup obviously does not know anything about judaism. At the time of Christ it was forbidden under Jewish Religious Law for men to either shave or cut their hair.
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Well not cut their hair just not the corners or their hair.
 
FLGreg said:
It’s not “tradition” but, entirely, biblical.

See the First Epistle Of Saint Paul To The Corinthians, Chapter XI:4-11
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There is definitely a scholarly consensus that would say that the original text doesn’t simply mean to cover your head in the english sense.
 
bible.org/question/what-does-head-covering-1-cor-11-refer

This is an interesting article as well that should be considered. Keep in mind the Bible also says

“Let women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted them to speak, but to be subject, as also the law saith.”

Culuture is, of course, extremely important to keep in consideration when reading any text.
 
Jessup said:
Why is it in the Catholic church; the old tradition states for women to cover their heads, but men do not. In the Jewish faith, men cover their head and woman do not.
This to me makes absoltueley no sense. Makes me question the very existance of faith and the sincerity of the orginization of religion in general. Being as such; When did God change his mind about hats? if Jews and Christians, both worship the God of abraham
Then why is there differn’t rules for head covering? On top of that, why does Jesus have long hair on a crucifix if we know that it is shameful for a Jew to have long hair in his time?
None of this makes sense to me.

Cheers! 👍
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Please come down off the ledge and read all the responses.🙂
 
You’ll note that when the National Anthem is played, men remove their hats out of respect. Think about it.
 
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Jessup obviously does not know anything about judaism. At the time of Christ it was forbidden under Jewish Religious Law for men to either shave or cut their hair.
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That regulation was only for those under a nazarite vow. No razor was to touch a one who had taken a nazarite vow.

**And he told her all his mind, and said to her, "A razor has never come upon my head; for I have been a Nazirite to God from my mother’s womb. ** (Judges 16:17)

Levitical priests were not permitted to shave the tops of their heads and were not permitted to trim their beards, but neither were they allowed to let their hair grow long.

They [sons of Aaron] shall not make tonsures upon their heads, nor shave off the edges of their beards, nor make any cuttings in their flesh. (Leviticus 21:5)

They [Levitical priests] shall not shave their heads or let their locks grow long; they shall only trim the hair of their heads. (Ezekiel 44:20)

I don’t think that there were regulations for ordinary Jews.

-Tim-
 
Jessup said:
Why is it in the Catholic church; the old tradition states for women to cover their heads, but men do not. In the Jewish faith, men cover their head and woman do not.
This to me makes absoltueley no sense. Makes me question the very existance of faith and the sincerity of the orginization of religion in general. Being as such; When did God change his mind about hats? if Jews and Christians, both worship the God of abraham
Then why is there differn’t rules for head covering? On top of that, why does Jesus have long hair on a crucifix if we know that it is shameful for a Jew to have long hair in his time?
None of this makes sense to me.

Cheers! 👍
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Let me see if I have this straight. You are going to jettison your entire relationship with God over a rule about hats? 🤷 In a lot of places around the world, Catholics are being martyred for their faith, and you’re concerned whether “God changed his mind about hats”? I think you need to put it into some perspective. :sad_yes:
 
FLGreg said:
It’s not “tradition” but, entirely, biblical.

See the First Epistle Of Saint Paul To The Corinthians, Chapter XI:4-11
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Thank you!

It’s refreshing to have a thread like this answered by the Bible. I wish Catholics had more Biblical literacy, but I am in debt to you for yours on this. I never knew this was in the Bible.

For Jessup, 1 Cor. 11:4-11 is identical to the Church practice today. And obviously the Jews wouldn’t listen to Paul because they don’t recognize any of his writings. They don’t have the New Testament.

So… problem solved. Thread Closed. dusts off hands and walks away:whistle:
 
Isn’t there writing in the scripture in the old testement I think leviticus where it says that it is shameful for a man to have long hair, that long hair is a symbol for woman or a veil for woman but not men.
 
Jessup said:
Isn’t there writing in the scripture in the old testement I think leviticus where it says that it is shameful for a man to have long hair, that long hair is a symbol for woman or a veil for woman but not men.
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Yet in the First Century there is sort of monastic vow among Jews where they don’t gut their hair for a while and only do so at the fulfillment of the prayers they have to do, and after sacrificing a lot of animals at the temple. I forgot what it is called.
 
Semper_Zelare said:
Thank you!

It’s refreshing to have a thread like this answered by the Bible. I wish Catholics had more Biblical literacy, but I am in debt to you for yours on this. I never knew this was in the Bible.

For Jessup, 1 Cor. 11:4-11 is identical to the Church practice today. And obviously the Jews wouldn’t listen to Paul because they don’t recognize any of his writings. They don’t have the New Testament.

So… problem solved. Thread Closed. dusts off hands and walks away:whistle:
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🍿 Ane I did not get to finish my popcorn!😃
 
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