Hats in church ok, hats in church not ok

[poche]

St Paul in onr of his letters to the Corinthians said that women should cover their hair and that men should not

 

[FLGreg]

bible.org/question/what-does-head-covering-1-cor-11-refer

This is an interesting article as well that should be considered. Keep in mind the Bible also says

“Let women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted them to speak, but to be subject, as also the law saith.”

Culuture is, of course, extremely important to keep in consideration when reading any text.

Yes, an interesting article - from a Protestant point of view.

It should be noted that it was not until the 1983 Code of Canon Law that, “according to ancient discipline”, women should cover their heads, along with being “modestly dressed”, during Mass, especially when they “come to the table of the Lord” (although many chose to ignore the law). Apparently, it was the wisdom of the modernists in a post-Vatican II Church that decided that such biblical requirements should be done away with.

As for “let women keep silent in the churches” – most modern Catholic scholars believe that St. Paul’s prohibition is in reference to women preaching/giving Homilies which is still in force today. Although, I wish the two little old ladies that sit behind me and come to Mass to catch up on gossip would “keep silent” before Mass.

Can 1262 1917 CODEX IURIS CANONICIS]
§2. Viri in ecclesia vel extra ecclesiam, dum sacris ritibus assistunt, nudo capite sint, nisi aliud ferant probati populorum mores aut peculiaria rerum adiuncta; mulieres autem, capite cooperto et modeste vestitae, maxime cum ad mensam Dominicam accedunt.

Canon 1262 [1917 Code of Canon Law]
§ 2. Men, in a church or outside the church, as long as the sacred rites, stand by, let them be, with bare head, unless they state otherwise being approved by the national customs, or particular circumstances;, however, the women, modestly dressed, and with [her] head covered with, especially when [they] come to the table of the Lord.(Google Translate of quote above)

 

[johnthebaptist1]

I know that us Catholics,men don,t wear hats in church,but other places do,its because of their belef.
As to Jesus wearing long hair,maybe it was because, so that people would know who Jesus was as he apporch them.

 

[MissRose73]

I’ve never seen a man wearing a hat in church. Even my father who wears a baseball cap constantly will remove his hat before going into church, also when the time dictates like a prayer before a meal, etc.

Certainly, like our Jewish brethren, we are to practice some form of modesty. But the rules are different compared to what they are to follow as well. I’ve read some of them, some of them seem outdated to modern people but to many there is comfort in tradition.

 

[geovet]

You do ask really good questions. And you do get many good answers. It is great learning about the Lord and his church. I found that studying the church fathers gave me the foundation needed to except the authority of the church. My favorite is Ignatius of Antioch. His feast day is 10/17.

God Bless

 

[Aramis]

I’ve never seen a man wearing a hat in church. Even my father who wears a baseball cap constantly will remove his hat before going into church, also when the time dictates like a prayer before a meal, etc.

Certainly, like our Jewish brethren, we are to practice some form of modesty. But the rules are different compared to what they are to follow as well. I’ve read some of them, some of them seem outdated to modern people but to many there is comfort in tradition.

For men, only clergy routinely wear hats in church. The biretta, the zucchetto, the miter, the monastic hood/cowl, the Syriac phiro and eskimo* and the Byzantine skoufia/kamilkava/klobuk** are worn by clerics during various parts of the liturgy.

Note that the biretta is not in common use, but it is still in use. For the EF, it’s removed at the foot of the altar. The cowl, the zucchetto, and the miter may be worn during the liturgy by those entitled to them, according to the rubrics (zucchetto and miter) and religious order’s traditions.

Note that one can see in the Dominican Mass photo at flickr.com/photos/dominicanfriars/8035847621/in/set-72157631656745828/ that the celebrant is hooded in his cowl. This is during the procession and prothesis… He will again wear his cowl for the recessional. See the rubrics at media.musicasacra.com/dominican/rt.pdf

Latins will generally not see the Eastern Church versions - but when concelebrating, Eastern Church clergy will normally vest according to their home tradition, including any liturgically appropriate hats.

Further, honor guards (be they military, KofC, or public safety) wear hats when under arms in the narthex, but not in the nave.

• Phiro- priest’s hat, similar to the zucchetto; Eskimo - the liturgical unattached hood-like hat of the Syriac Rites’ monastics.
  ** the various hats used by the Byzantine rite deacons and priests; also used by monks, and outside the liturgy by bishops. Roughly equivalent to the birreta.

 

[DaveBj]

1. There were times specified in the Torah when a man was supposed to completely shave his head. One such specification is Leviticus 14:9. Others can be found by going to an on-line Bible and searching on the word “shave.” Even nazarites (those who had temporary vows) shaved their heads at the end of their vows; Paul mentions doing this in Acts 21:24
2. I Cor. 11:14 is the verse about men having long hair: "Does not even nature teach you that it is a shame for a man to have long hair?” I’ve always wondered about that, because I don’t see “nature” teaching anything at all on that subject.
3. The original rules about covering or not covering the head came from the earlier verses in I Cor. chapter 11. Verses 4 and 5 say, “Any man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head, but any woman who prays or prophesies with her head unveiled dishonors her head. . .” This appears to refer only to praying and prophesying, but Christian tradition has expanded this to just being in a church, in the same way that Jewish tradition expanded “thou shalt not boil a kid in its mother’s milk” to “you can’t have a cheeseburger.”