Have mercy on immigrants!

[Theo520]

Enforcing our rule of law will actually reduce arrests in the future,
stats show that the flow of illegals is down significantly since Trump took office.

 

[mikekle]

Enforcing our rule of law will actually reduce arrests in the future,
stats show that the flow of illegals is down significantly since Trump took office.

How would they be able to determine how many illegal immigrants are entering at one time versus another?

 

[Theo520]

How would they be able to determine how many illegal immigrants are entering at one time versus another?

Though not perfect, the border patrol keeps records, they have a good idea on the flow from the sampling of how many they are seeing and actually catching.

 

[mikekle]

Though not perfect, the border patrol keeps records, they have a good idea on the flow from the sampling of how many they are seeing and actually catching.

Their figures are probably not even remotely accurate then, since there are numerous ways for people to enter the country besides the Mexican border, there could be 100s of deep tunnels going from Mexico to the US also.

Since the drug cartels can consistently get enough of their product in to keep the entire nation supplied, something tells me they can transport people in the same way if there was enough profit to be made, I have to assume they have methods unknown to border patrol to move people and product into the country, since they are consistently successful despite how much security the border comes up with.

 

[CHRISTINE77]

Illegal immigration from Mexico is a big problem, because so many American businessmen use illegal immigrants for cheap labor. When we are talking about illegal immigration I think we are talking about Mexicans aren’t we? (Even though there are a lot of immigrants coming from all parts or the world, legally and illegally.)

A lot of immigrants marry Americans to become legal. I don’t think we need to have mercy on immigrants. There are billions of dollars in social services doled out to them, and many are very money smart and become richer than most native-born Americans in a short time.

 

[Theo520]

Their figures are probably not even remotely accurate then, since there are numerous ways for people to enter the country besides the Mexican border, there could be 100s of deep tunnels going from Mexico to the US also.

Since the drug cartels can consistently get enough of their product in to keep the entire nation supplied, something tells me they can transport people in the same way if there was enough profit to be made, I have to assume they have methods unknown to border patrol to move people and product into the country, since they are consistently successful despite how much security the border comes up with.

I suggest you just apply a little logic to the issue.

• ICE and Border Patrol are actively increasing their enforcement, stopping Obama’s catch and release policy
• increased enforcement would lead to increased capture, all else being equal.

The unequal part is that the flow has turned down, fewer illegals are taking the increased risk. This is the logical explanation which has been reported in the news on both sides of the fence.

Incidentally, the media has also reported the flow of illegals into Canada has skyrocketed, which also fits logically. The US has dropped in opportunity while Canada has increased, professing open arms.

Introducing drugs is a red herring. I expect the flow of drugs will be constrained but persist, likely resulting in high prices.

 

[St_Francis]

The article seemed unclear about the 41+K arrests: is this the number for non-citizens in the US illegally, or for immigrants convicted of a crime whomwere supposed to be deported? Or what, precisely?

I think that they do have a point that someone who is here illegally should not have to fear going to the police to report a crime or something like that, esp since there are times when a lot of illegal immigrants live in proximity and being able to report without fear of deportation would help the police to catch really bad illegal immigrants. It would be like a search warrant: evidence of the reporter’s status would not be permitted to be used against them. OTOH, if the same person were found by other means to be here illegally, that would be prosecutable.

 

[Hoosier_Daddy]

Despite pleas from-bishops immigration-arrests soar in 2017?
patheos.com/blogs/catholicnews/2017/05/despite-pleas-from-bishops-immigration-arrests-soar-in-2017

(Extracted from www.patheos.com)

Immigration arrests!?

Is immigration a crime?

 

[JMartyr73340]

Despite pleas from-bishops immigration-arrests soar in 2017?
patheos.com/blogs/catholicnews/2017/05/despite-pleas-from-bishops-immigration-arrests-soar-in-2017

(Extracted from www.patheos.com)

The way I see it, people have the right to defend and preserve their culture. Letting too many immigrants into a country is a great way for a culture to commit suicide. Japan severely limits its immigration, and for good reason. If Japan were to suddenly take in thousands of immigrants from the Middle East, to the point where they reached 30-40% of the population, the country wouldn’t be Japanese anymore. It would be a Muslim country. As in many western countries, the people in Japan are not having many children anymore - maybe one or two. The Muslims, on the other hand, tend to have much larger families. Hence, the possibility of being “out-populated” would be very real in this scenario.

 

[NickyMaz]

The way I see it, people have the right to defend and preserve their culture. Letting too many immigrants into a country is a great way for a culture to commit suicide. Japan severely limits its immigration, and for good reason. If Japan were to suddenly take in thousands of immigrants from the Middle East, to the point where they reached 30-40% of the population, the country wouldn’t be Japanese anymore. It would be a Muslim country. As in many western countries, the people in Japan are not having many children anymore - maybe one or two. The Muslims, on the other hand, tend to have much larger families. Hence, the possibility of being “out-populated” would be very real in this scenario.

Yes, that is the ultimate goal, to replace western culture because it’s racist and bad.

 

[CHRISTINE77]

The way I see it, people have the right to defend and preserve their culture. Letting too many immigrants into a country is a great way for a culture to commit suicide. Japan severely limits its immigration, and for good reason. If Japan were to suddenly take in thousands of immigrants from the Middle East, to the point where they reached 30-40% of the population, the country wouldn’t be Japanese anymore. It would be a Muslim country. As in many western countries, the people in Japan are not having many children anymore - maybe one or two. The Muslims, on the other hand, tend to have much larger families. Hence, the possibility of being “out-populated” would be very real in this scenario.

 

[Viki63]

One fact that needs to be mentioned is that Mexico is a very wealthy country, yet its government treats its citizens badly. They would be able to provide employment, healthcare, benefits, education and infrastructure to all their citizens, but the rich don’t want their taxes to increase.

I have read that Mexican tax rate is 12%, versus the US which is 25 to 28%. It is unjust for Mexico to force its poor to come to the US to survive, instead of caring for them there.

It’s as if I choose not to feed my children, instead I send them to the neighbors to beg. You can’t blame the children, they’re trying to survive, but the parents should be held accountable.

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[pnewton]

The way I see it, people have the right to defend and preserve their culture. Letting too many immigrants into a country is a great way for a culture to commit suicide.

Does that include our culture of death, greed and wanton sexuality? I do not know if our culture deserves to survive.

So, as this is a Catholic website, anyone care to quote one of our bishops to illustrate your opinion? Or is every bishop in the United States wrong?

 

[SuperLuigi]

pnewton;14757764]Does that include our culture of death, greed and wanton sexuality? I do not know if our culture deserves to survive.

That’s why its being replaced. People want their entitlements without contributing. In fact, that’s now a big-time virtue.

And I don’t blame the Muslims, Orthodox Christians or conservative Catholics who come to the West and East Asia and see these things as direct threats to their own culture and what God wants for humanity.

Of course, that view is not the same as trying to score brownie points for the sake of diversity and image in polite society.

So, as this is a Catholic website, anyone care to quote one of our bishops to illustrate your opinion? Or is every bishop in the United States wrong?

Why? Do you have a point you haven’t posted that needs an appeal to authority?

Oh, and yes, it is possible for the bishops and even the Vatican to be wrong on a political issue or people to disagree with them.

Our first duty is to witness the Truth, not to appeal to authority of man.

 

[CHRISTINE77]

One fact that needs to be mentioned is that Mexico is a very wealthy country, yet its government treats its citizens badly. They would be able to provide employment, healthcare, benefits, education and infrastructure to all their citizens, but the rich don’t want their taxes to increase.

I have read that Mexican tax rate is 12%, versus the US which is 25 to 28%. It is unjust for Mexico to force its poor to come to the US to survive, instead of caring for them there.

It’s as if I choose not to feed my children, instead I send them to the neighbors to beg. You can’t blame the children, they’re trying to survive, but the parents should be held accountable.

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That is a VERY good point!

 

[pnewton]

Why? Do you have a point you haven’t posted that needs an appeal to authority?

I told you why. This is a Catholic website. I would think that zero support from among all the Catholic bishops in the United States would give most Catholics pause.