Have You Ever Consider Asking These Souls To Intercede?

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Wizard, do you know the Catholic faith?
If those souls are in purgatory, we can pray for them and ask their prayers for us. If they are in hell we cannot pray for them and they surely won’t pray for us. If they are in heaven, they can pray for us.
Are you praying for these souls? Are you asking them to pray for you? Why or why not?
 
Souls in purgatory cannot intercede for anyone, since a person is not a canonized saint, we have no idea their final destination. Therefore, your prayers may not have their desired effect. Everyone in heaven is a Saint, but we can only be positive about the canonized ones.
 
If you wanted to do this, I’d suggest this.

Say this:

“Lord God, have mercy on and bless and forgive the sins of the soul of Gary Cooper; Gary Cooper, when and if able, pray for us.”
 
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Souls in purgatory cannot intercede for anyone, since a person is not a canonized saint, we have no idea their final destination
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I’m not sure this is true. I think the poor souls may be able to pray for us? I remember reading something in the Story of a Soul by St. Therese.
 
Well, they certainly can’t pray for themselves.
Perhaps they can pray for us. But the point is, the prayers of deceased celebrities are not more efficaious than those of canonized saints.
 
Well part of the Novena for the Holy Souls in Purgatory include asking them to pray for us, so…I remember being quite moved by the story of Rudolf Hoss the first time I heard it and offering a prayer for him. And I once asked for him to pray for me. One of the sins I struggle with could be termed “struggling with basic decency” and I figure if God could give him of all people the grace of contrition, there’s hope for me as well.
 
The reason I brought this up was I was surprised when someone told me that these individual were Catholic. I had always thought that they had lead very “worldly” lives and were not the best examples of living the Catholic life. But after doing some reading it seems like they all came to realize the error of their ways even though it might be on his death bed as in the case of Oscar Wilde. I know this sounds silly and I will most likely be thoroughly chastised for saying it but I can just see those souls sitting around saying "Everyone else is being asked to intercede for them and no one is asking us.’. I can not say they are in purgatory or heaven and if they are not I am certain God directs my prays to someone that can intercede But since I need all the help I can get I am adding them to the list of those I ask to intercede for me.

As for Pope Alexander VI, Benito Mussolini, Francisco Franco, and Ted Kennedy I would not bet next week’s grocery money on them being in heaven but until we get there we will never know for sure.
 
Yes, it is very important to correct what pianistclare stated. The souls in purgatory CAN pray for us and DO pray for us. They have to be perfected in charity, and a big part of how they do it is prayer for us, the living. That’s an important part of the Communion of Saints–we are ALL bound in a communion of charity. By no means are the souls in purgatory cut out of this! We can pray for them (and we should, constantly) and they can pray for us. They CANNOT however, pray for themselves; hence, they rely on our prayers.
Very important. Pray for the souls in Purgatory, and ask them to pray for you.
 
Npe, but may i mention, i persoanlly believe Oscar Wilde is in Heaven, why? Beacause he sincerely repented of his sins, confessed, received absolution and the last rites along (if i remember correctly) a plenary indulgence so being in a state of gace+plenary indulgence+dying right after means straight to Heaven

I wouldn’t support it if there was a chase for his canonization, however, as i think i’d be an ocassion of scandal, if he were canonized tho i would probably see him as the patron Saint of those struggling with same sex attractions and a wonderful example of how EVERYONE regardless of his sins can repent, through the grace and mercy of God
 
I thought being gay wasn’t a sin.

But in all seriousness. He’d bring some much needed humor. His last words were “either this wallpaper goes, or I do”
 
Gary Cooper? You mean the philanderer, adulterer, and abortion-advocating Gary Cooper? Well it’s good he was baptized again in '59 or that man very well may have ended up in a place prayers don’t go.
 
Oh, I know. He shall recieve his wages, just as one who was Catholic from birth. My point was Cooper made a tremendous change later in life. It was kinda miraculous, that’s all.
 
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