Have you ever experienced anything " supernatural ?"

[Bob_Crowley]

I think God’s the one who picks and chooses who gets what. Baptism is a pretty good head start, but there’s a photograph of a Hindu Yogi levitating going back to 1937, by a British journalist. I personally think he’s really levitating, and that’s supernatural, if not miraculous.

So supernatural phenomena by themselves don’t confirm a person’s holiness or Christian faith. I may have had an unusual number of supernatural experiences, but there are probably a lot of better Christians around than I am who have not, or who have experienced very few.

There were a lot of Galilean fisherman in Christ’s time, but only one was chosen to be the Rock. And that was God’s choice, not Peter’s.

In reference to my comment about the Hindu Yogi levitating, the photographs taken by the journalist can be seen at the following link. Personally I think they’re fair dinkum. The spiritual world doesn’t surprise me, and in any case there is a long tradition of Catholic mystics who levitated.

amazingabilities.com/amaze8a.html

 

[anrmenchaca47]

I remember several years back, my wife was pregnant, back then, with our third child. At 19 weeks she miscarried and we were devestated by this loss. My wife, who was a coach for a Junior High School, was invited to one of her students house by her parents. So we went to their house. They were very heart warming people. Both my wife and I were taken separately and were spoken to by this husband and wife…Well lo and behold it turns out that they were mormon. They husband began preaching like those guys who ride their bikes going door to door. Each time he spoke he kept asking me “would you like to know more?” I swear, it sounded like a television commercial. Well, my wife and I were at our lowest point because of our loss and we were cradle Catholics at this points. I can honestly say that I was convinced and I made a hastily decision to become a mormon. I did this because I noticed it gave my wife comfort at the idea of becoming mormon and it gave her peace.

Anyway, I said yes to being “baptized” and I saw my wife happy, however, I felt a very STRONG feeling of, how can I say this,…Wrongness. It felt VERY wrong and I felt like I turned my back on God, Jesus, Mary and the Catholic Church. I felt so bad that later I began to cry for this decision. Of course I did not cry in front of my wife about this.

Well, that night I dreamt of a Rosary suspended in mid-air and then our Holy Mother in the same image of that on the tunic of Juan Diego. Suddenly, I felt this urgency of recanting my decision to be a mormon and I expressed this to my wife that we should stay true to our Faith.

What really upset me was that these people took advantage of us when we were in a state of mourning and used it as a means to convert us by sugar coating their beliefs.

Also, its been said that whenever our Holy Mother is present, you can smell the scent of roses in the air. I have experienced this many times. It is so awesome.

 

[Gaber]

In reference to my comment about the Hindu Yogi levitating, the photographs taken by the journalist can be seen at the following link. Personally I think they’re fair dinkum. The spiritual world doesn’t surprise me, and in any case there is a long tradition of Catholic mystics who levitated.

amazingabilities.com/amaze8a.html

If I’m not mistaken, that particular photo was debunked. (steel rod in the cloth hanging down.)

But I’m curious: do you think “Catholic Saint? Cool. Non-Catholic Saint? Dinkum!”

 

[Bob_Crowley]

If I’m not mistaken, that particular photo was debunked. (steel rod in the cloth hanging down.)

But I’m curious: do you think “Catholic Saint? Cool. Non-Catholic Saint? Dinkum!”

Was there evidence of a steel rod? Or is that what some sceptic wanted to believe? Even if there was a steel rod, that Yogi must have had a grip like superman to stay where he was for any length of time.

I’m not sure about your question. To the best of my knowledge only “saints” have been known to levitate, other than demon affected people during exorcisms.

During my early days as a Christian, I went to see a pastor who had a deliverance ministry. He told me he’d seen people floating up near his own ceiling during exorcism rites. As far as I’m concerned he was telling the truth.

And there’s an interview of an official Vatican exorcist who said the same thing.

Either way the cause is spiritual.

 

[Sunlight]

Well, I am battling with having 100% faith. Quite a few years ago I had a dream of Jesus. His back was faced towards me. I thought in my dream “if he is real, he will turn around and look at me”, and then he would turn around and look at me. This happened a few times in the dream. Unfortunately, the way it ended showed me it was really just a dream and had no meaning.

I wish it didn’t end the way it did. Anyway, I like to think that maybe it was a vision from him and at the end of the vision, I just slid into a regular dream. But, it was probably just a dream. Not that this adds anything to this thread, but after reading the thread, I just wanted to add my story. But on a side note, I have heard of supernatural experiences from family members. ^^

 

[Maria1993]

I’ve been physically attacked in my sleep, about two times. I spoke to a lady who works at a parish nearby who can pray in tongues, and hear Jesus, she told me I had been attacked by the same thing that attacked her, the you know what.

Many years ago as a child, on a sleepless night on my bottom bunk, I was staring up and I froze. I could not move but wiggle my eyes, and “floating up” or flapping it’s wings, almost cartoon like, was what I believe to be a Cherub. It was smiling and small. Curly hair. After it was out of sight, I un-froze.

This one, only my mom knows.
This year is my year as a “revert”, im a teen but this years is when I started practicing my faith. I was in what I believe was Mortal Sin on Easter Sunday, cant remember what. And I was longing, wishing, I could recieve communion. I watched everyone go up, and just felt like I failed my entire lent season for some reason. At the time I still had slight intrusive thoughts. And whenever I try to picture Jesus or something holy, it takes a bad twist.
This time, at the time of me being upset during communion, I saw a white robe with the red scarf-like thing Jesus has in some pictures, I saw pretty much shoulders down, a barefoot man, I saw his feet arrive in my pew and i clenched my eyes as i saw a hand extend towards me, to try and “stop the intrusive thought”, and i saw the hand get to me and thought, “well here comes the waterworks” and there was waterworks.

 

[PumpkinSeed]

Yes, and I believe another one will occur for me very soon.

 

[Bix]

Welcome to the forums, Romeosone!

I have had a few friends who had a “gift” similar to what you experienced, save that they were more given to seeing things that were about to happen. It was extremely disconcerting to them, as they saw very disturbing things that happened to people. What they did was to pray that the visions be removed and occur only if there was something specific they could do relative to the vision. In both cases the horrific visions stopped, and what came was far more innocuous. You are, or were, experiencing a faculty that is a very natural part of our make-up. But like any gift, even this one needs schooling and training. That is rare in our day. At one time, way in the past, way, it may not have been so. And it may be in the future that we again more commonly use what is a natural gift. But right now the understanding, let alone the training, of that gift is very problematic. Best to just know that you are in the arms of Love, and ask for some mitigation specific to your ability to cope. Who knows? As in some cases, your gift might open and bless in an unexpected way!

So this is just a natural part of people and nothing to dwell or concern with?

 

[Gaber]

So this is just a natural part of people and nothing to dwell or concern with?

I’m not sure “dwelling” on anything is the most resourceful response. And concerned? That kind of comes with the territory. I was very concerned on several occasions, by mystical experiences, one of which totally pulled the rug out from my beliefs, at the time, of what constitutes being a person.

But “growing up” is usually an arc away from infantile self absorption to something ineffably transcendent and in a sense non personal. Along the way, at different fulcrums, we do discover we have interior tools we had no clue about before. If we are lucky, there is a teacher nearby. If not, then there is teleology, or trial and error, Or as some concrete guys I once knew, said " trowel and error."

But in any case, life seems to be a series of incidents which do their best to knock you off balance. Well, the thing that sees you are off balance never is, or you wouldn’t notice a difference. Find out what that is, and you will be immeasurably on your way to an unassailable inner peace beyond figuring out.

 

[wcknight]

Well, I am battling with having 100% faith. Quite a few years ago I had a dream of Jesus. His back was faced towards me. I thought in my dream “if he is real, he will turn around and look at me”, and then he would turn around and look at me. This happened a few times in the dream. Unfortunately, the way it ended showed me it was really just a dream and had no meaning.

I wish it didn’t end the way it did. Anyway, I like to think that maybe it was a vision from him and at the end of the vision, I just slid into a regular dream. But, it was probably just a dream. Not that this adds anything to this thread, but after reading the thread, I just wanted to add my story. But on a side note, I have heard of supernatural experiences from family members. ^^

Maybe that is wishful thinking on your part. Subconciouly you are feeling that Jesus has turned His back on you… BUT God never turns away from us. WE are the ones who turn our backs on Him. You want God to reach out to you, and He does, BUT you are the one who needs to take the step towards Him. You have the free will to do as you please. Dreams are usually our subconcious trying to tell us something. (or it could just be random thoughts about our hopes or fears as our minds are getting its rest) or it may be God trying to tell us something.

 

[Bix]

I’m not sure “dwelling” on anything is the most resourceful response. And concerned? That kind of comes with the territory. I was very concerned on several occasions, by mystical experiences, one of which totally pulled the rug out from my beliefs, at the time, of what constitutes being a person.

But “growing up” is usually an arc away from infantile self absorption to something ineffably transcendent and in a sense non personal. Along the way, at different fulcrums, we do discover we have interior tools we had no clue about before. If we are lucky, there is a teacher nearby. If not, then there is teleology, or trial and error, Or as some concrete guys I once knew, said " trowel and error."

But in any case, life seems to be a series of incidents which do their best to knock you off balance. Well, the thing that sees you are off balance never is, or you wouldn’t notice a difference. Find out what that is, and you will be immeasurably on your way to an unassailable inner peace beyond figuring out.

So, everyone has it and no one talks about it???

 

[Gaber]

So, everyone has it and no one talks about it???

You might profit from a course in the discipline of General Semantics. Yours is a double allness statement.

Everyone likely has some degree of such gifts, albeit discovered or not. By analogy, not everyone has a lip for the trumpet, and some who might are not inclined to music. Also, some obviously do talk about it, hence this thread and shelves of books from different perspectives.

 

[Bix]

What is teleology?
Does it have anything to do with all the weird tests they give you as a child? ( not the one’s for if you’re color blind and things of similar nature )

 

[Gaber]

What is teleology?
Does it have anything to do with all the weird tests they give you as a child? ( not the one’s for if you’re color blind and things of similar nature )

How old are you?

If you can get on to this forum, surely you can get to an on line dictionary?

 

[Bix]

How old are you?

If you can get on to this forum, surely you can get to an on line dictionary?

I ignored your previous sarcastic comments in your earlier post.

Your comments are rude and insulting.

As to your question- I’m old enough to have been raised properly and have a few proper social manners.

 

[Gaber]

So, everyone has it and no one talks about it???

Everyone has it potentially to some degree or other, similar to having a lip for the trumpet. But even if one does, there may not be an inclination to Music. Or there might be an inclination to Music, and no lip. But in any case, certainly there have been libraries written and spoken on the subject.

 

[Qoeleth]

I have never experienced anything supernatural- not one single thing. I wish that I could.

 

[Bob_Crowley]

I have never experienced anything supernatural- not one single thing. I wish that I could.

I had a quick look at your public profile, or more accurately a brief sojourn of your posts. I didn’t read them, but I noticed that just about every post you do is usually in the Philosophy section, or moral theology, with a few side ventures into evangelism etc.

If I did a summary of mine post, the majority would be in “Spirituality”, with some in “World News”, “Other Religions”, “Scripture” and a few in “Philosophy”, and not much else. If I hadn’t had the spiritual experiences I have had (and I didn’t ask for them either, nor am I a meditative sort - they’ve just happened), I suppose I’d tend towards the philosophical section myself, since I’d then be forced to rely on my intellect.

So I think you’re an intellectual Christian, and God works through your mind in your case. That’s not a bad way to be, since as Cardinal Newman wrote (I’m quoting second hand here from someone else, so I’m probably way off the beam on a literal basis), “God works chiefly through our minds, not without them or in spite of them.”

Still if you want some sort of experience, then you can always ask God to give you one. What I’ve found though is that if He gives you clear supernatural experiences or guidance, the mere fact He has done so seems to give the enemy permission to muddy the waters with similar but deceptive experiences. It wasn’t long after I had my first “double whammy” that I started getting “tingles, thrills etc.”, so I’m just passing on a warning.

 

[Gaber]

I had a quick look at your public profile, or more accurately a brief sojourn of your posts. I didn’t read them, but I noticed that just about every post you do is usually in the Philosophy section, or moral theology, with a few side ventures into evangelism etc.

If I did a summary of mine post, the majority would be in “Spirituality”, with some in “World News”, “Other Religions”, “Scripture” and a few in “Philosophy”, and not much else. If I hadn’t had the spiritual experiences I have had (and I didn’t ask for them either, nor am I a meditative sort - they’ve just happened), I suppose I’d tend towards the philosophical section myself, since I’d then be forced to rely on my intellect.

So I think you’re an intellectual Christian, and God works through your mind in your case. That’s not a bad way to be, since as Cardinal Newman wrote (I’m quoting second hand here from someone else, so I’m probably way off the beam on a literal basis), “God works chiefly through our minds, not without them or in spite of them.”

Still if you want some sort of experience, then you can always ask God to give you one. What I’ve found though is that if He gives you clear supernatural experiences or guidance, the mere fact He has done so seems to give the enemy permission to muddy the waters with similar but deceptive experiences. It wasn’t long after I had my first “double whammy” that I started getting “tingles, thrills etc.”, so I’m just passing on a warning.

I think that in this case (I haven’t read all your posts, Bob,) Mr. Crowley speaks accurately and well.

For my part, it isn’t so much about what one experiences, as it is to discover who, and especially what. it is that experiences. How is it that we experience? My observation is that most folks mistake their thoughts, feelings, and conclusions for their actual self identity, and thus have a partial view of even their own reality. Basic self knowledge seems to be at a premium. And by self knowledge I don’t mean a random pr even detailed inventory of whats in your mind, but an inquiry into the nature of one’s awareness itself. I can see no greater, more useful, or profitable activity in the way of growing spiritually than to know deeply the very tool one is using to view their experience.

 

[tonyrey]

I have never experienced anything supernatural- not one single thing. I wish that I could.

You have but you didn’t recognise it! There is no way of **always **distinguishing the natural from the supernatural…

1. Every time we make a deliberate choice or decision we transcend nature.
2. There is also such a thing as inspiration.
3. Life is so complex we can never know when God intervenes - unless there is an obvious miracle. Every event can explained individually but combinations of events, i.e. apparently unintended coincidences, often have extremely significant repercussions - like the origin of life. Human history has often been affected by “chance” encounters.