Have you heard this?

[Lady_D_I]

I have no idea where to post this but I’ve got a question. Have you ever heard the Catholic Church once recommended husbands beat their wives at least once a week to make sure she didn’t get it in her head that she was an equal to a man? Where did this come from? Someone stated this on another forum I visit .

 

[yellowbird]

I’ve never heard that before.

I would ask the other poster to provide proof the Catholic Church said that. I don’t believe it’s true.

 

[Brenda_V]

I’ve never heard that before.

I would ask the other poster to provide proof the Catholic Church said that. I don’t believe it’s true.

I agree. This is just so bizarre! If it was recommended it was by a rogue Priest or Bishop!

Brenda V.

 

[kage_ar]

It is required of the person MAKING this accusation to prove the statement from an authoritative Catholic source.

As the Vatican has every document for centuries available on line, this should be easy to do - if such a thing exists.

Should they be unable to back up the assertion, request they be moderated for stating lies.

 

[Lady_D_I]

I don’t believe it either. This is part of my reply “I’ll have to dig up the documentation on this to be sure it isn’t a mistaken belief about the RCC like the one about how the Catholic Church used to chain bibles to the table so people couldn’t read the bible or how Catholics worship statues… Do you have documentation?”. This was posted on a thread about gay marraige, so of course there has to be some bashing of the Church- especially from former Catholics.

 

[Lady_D_I]

It is required of the person MAKING this accusation to prove the statement from an authoritative Catholic source.

As the Vatican has every document for centuries available on line, this should be easy to do - if such a thing exists.

Should they be unable to back up the assertion, request they be moderated for stating lies.

I think I’ll report the post. This is a fitness forum - the thread is in the open discussion forum - and I’m not sure how much moderating they do there.

 

[OutinChgoburbs]

I’m going to help you out.

There was a MUSLIM cleric who suggested men beat their wives with a twig, I think back in 2003 or 2004.

That was the only thing I could find on the subject.

The Catholic Church has NEVER to the best of my knowledge advocated beating wives once a week. In the past, wives have been told to make sacrifices to live with an abusive or drunken spouse by a very few well-meaning but ignorant priests. Even then, the husband was still held to account.

As per usual, I agree with kage_ar and think the person who said it should come up with the proof, or be quiet on the matter.

 

[chevalier]

I have no idea where to post this but I’ve got a question. Have you ever heard the Catholic Church once recommended husbands beat their wives at least once a week to make sure she didn’t get it in her head that she was an equal to a man? Where did this come from? Someone stated this on another forum I visit .

Yeah and what’s next? Do we eat babies too? Violence is not acceptable and husbands and wives are equal. The husband is the head of the family, but the wife is not his child to punish.

Besides, I can’t imagine first beating a woman, then bringing her flowers and taking her out, then beating her again, then being nice again and so on. Any guy who hits his wife for any reason has a problem.

 

[KCtheMommy]

I’m going to help you out.

There was a MUSLIM cleric who suggested men beat their wives with a twig, I think back in 2003 or 2004.

That was the only thing I could find on the subject.

The Catholic Church has NEVER to the best of my knowledge advocated beating wives once a week. In the past, wives have been told to make sacrifices to live with an abusive or drunken spouse by a very few well-meaning but ignorant priests. Even then, the husband was still held to account.

As per usual, I agree with kage_ar and think the person who said it should come up with the proof, or be quiet on the matter.

I’m with Burbs, I’ve only heard that type of theology out of Muslims, not Catholics. Nor Southern Baptists. They’re big on not sparing the rod ya know.

 

[IrishAm]

Oh, good grief. If it sounds ridiculous, chances are it is.

No one should waste their time with such nonsense.

 

[Lady_D_I]

Oh, good grief. If it sounds ridiculous, chances are it is.

No one should waste their time with such nonsense.

I thought about it- but I just can’t let stupidity go. It is a tough job fighting stupidity but someone has to do it.

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There was a MUSLIM cleric who suggested men beat their wives with a twig, I think back in 2003 or 2004.http://www.answering-christianity.com/beating.htm
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Hmmm… I bet if I posted this there would be complaints and I’d be accused of terrible things.

They’re big on not sparing the rod ya know.

My DH had a response but it is better left unsaid.

Thanks everyone. I thought perhaps this was another myth that someone has heard before - always helps to have a little history especially where these things orginate.

 

[Lady_D_I]

Oh, good grief. If it sounds ridiculous, chances are it is.

No one should waste their time with such nonsense.

You know what, you are right. I don’t have time for it - so I deleted my post. So cool I could delete it after all these hours. I was so tempted to post in a couple of days with an update re: there being no official “recommendation” but I’ll keep my sarcasm to myself. Y’all have no idea how difficult it is for me to do this.

 

[puzzleannie]

I have no idea where to post this but I’ve got a question. Have you ever heard the Catholic Church once recommended husbands beat their wives at least once a week to make sure she didn’t get it in her head that she was an equal to a man? Where did this come from? Someone stated this on another forum I visit .

no I have heard folk tales from various cultures, such as Russian, that repeat a version of this, but never under any religious auspices. if there is no source, it didn’t happen, and if there is no credible source, there is nothing to refute and nothing to discuss

 

[OutinChgoburbs]

I’m with Burbs, I’ve only heard that type of theology out of Muslims, not Catholics. Nor Southern Baptists. They’re big on not sparing the rod ya know.

Ah that one I actually saw with my own eyes, when living in base housing way back when in the late 1970s.

We lived in a certain section of Florida, in a small town which bragged it had a church for every 3.5 people (I know, what church allowed 1/2 people to attend). The base chapel was not the best at the time, for Protestants or Catholics. So, a lot of people went “on the economy” to church.

There was a suspicious church, claiming to be Baptist, but not like any of the Baptists I’d ever encountered. One of the sailors who attended this church informed me that I was a cannibal for being Catholic. When I informed him he could leave my house, he told my husband to get me under control.

Same guy was later busted for spanking his wife.

Seems that’s what this minister in this church told the men to do, spank their wives. The base commander issued an order than NO SAILOR was to attend this church. Here was this church, listed right along with gyp joints and pawn shops.

There were protests about Freedom of Religion, but those never came to anything.

 

[Biblioassistant]

I’ve not heard that, but I have heard that the phrase “rule of thumb” came about because men were permitted to beat their wives as long as the stick was not bigger around than a thumb.

Of course that is nonsense. The term is thought to originate with wood workers who used the length of their thumbs rather than rulers for measuring things.

 

[jwashu]

I have no idea where to post this but I’ve got a question. Have you ever heard the Catholic Church once recommended husbands beat their wives at least once a week to make sure she didn’t get it in her head that she was an equal to a man? Where did this come from? Someone stated this on another forum I visit .

Considering that your statement goes against the Teachings of the New Testament AND JPII’s Theology of the Body, I certain that whoever told you that is misinformed

 

[Lady_D_I]

Considering that your statement goes against the Teachings of the New Testament AND JPII’s Theology of the Body, I certain that whoever told you that is misinformed

Oh, this “recommendation” would have been before JPII’s TOB, but of couse not the NT.

I think I need to clarify - I am not asking if the Church ever recommended this. I am asking if anyone ever heard this accusation? And where someone would get this? It is possible someone has taken a Church teaching or a historical fact out of context. For example, bibles were chained to tables once upon a time but not to prevent anyone from reading it but to prevent theft. Now, I am not sure what teaching or bit of history this could be based on but there are some “creative” people in the world.

 

[chevalier]

Oh, this “recommendation” would have been before JPII’s TOB, but of couse not the NT.

I think I need to clarify - I am not asking if the Church ever recommended this. I am asking if anyone ever heard this accusation? And where someone would get this? It is possible someone has taken a Church teaching or a historical fact out of context. For example, bibles were chained to tables once upon a time but not to prevent anyone from reading it but to prevent theft. Now, I am not sure what teaching or bit of history this could be based on but there are some “creative” people in the world.

Possibly a historical fact taken out of context, yeah. It’s hard to guarantee that no priest or theologian has ever said that, but that’s where it ends. After all, we had inquisition too.