"Have you prayed for bin Ladin Today?" Brother Andrew

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I really don’t know where to put this but I hope we discuss it.

I admire Brother Andrew a great deal. I wish he were a Catholic but he has some deep insights that we need to ponder. For the life of me I don’t know if he is right, but he certainly is Godly.

Here’s an excerpt from an interview with Christianity Today:

"Why should evangelicals stay the course and be engaged with the Arabic church in the Middle East?

What Muslims see when we talk about the church is a completely different picture, and it is not the first important point. The most important point is what they perceive of what we say and do. This is what they think of the West: They think every white person is a Christian, every soldier in uniform is a Christian, every bomb is a Christian bomb. Nobody ridicules that idea. When we read about nuclear plans, we always talk about the Muslim bomb. Why shouldn’t they talk about the Christian bomb? You see my point?"

christianitytoday.com/ct/2007/juneweb-only/125-52.0.html
 
Yeah, I prayed for him. I prayed for him to be captured and to get what international justice has stated he has coming to him, for his crazy followers to disband, for the war to end, for our troops to come home, and for the entire Middle East to become so quiet it makes a library on Sunday sound deafening.
 
GregoryPalamas said:
I really don’t know where to put this but I hope we discuss it.

I admire Brother Andrew a great deal. I wish he were a Catholic but he has some deep insights that we need to ponder. For the life of me I don’t know if he is right, but he certainly is Godly.

Here’s an excerpt from an interview with Christianity Today:

"Why should evangelicals stay the course and be engaged with the Arabic church in the Middle East?

What Muslims see when we talk about the church is a completely different picture, and it is not the first important point. The most important point is what they perceive of what we say and do. This is what they think of the West: They think every white person is a Christian, every soldier in uniform is a Christian, every bomb is a Christian bomb. Nobody ridicules that idea. When we read about nuclear plans, we always talk about the Muslim bomb. Why shouldn’t they talk about the Christian bomb? You see my point?"

[christianitytoday.com/ct/2007/juneweb-only/125-52.0.html](http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2007/juneweb-only/125-52.0.html)
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Yes.

It goes like this:

“For the sake of his sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.”
 
mark_a said:
Yes.

It goes like this:

“For the sake of his sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.”
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Well said. One priest on another thread offered this which I believe is helpful, at least it was to me.
  1. I pray daily for his conversion.
    Until then,
  2. I pray that God will continually confuse him.
CDL
 
Praying for the Christian Church in Muslim controlled lands is very important. It’s one of the key reasons I’m Catholic, in fact.

I was fed up of hearing about Evangelical missionaries going out to the Middle East (and Latin America, but that’s another story) to “bring the gospel” as if it was something new to the lands where Jesus Christ and His disciples lived. I was sick of the way they came, quite ignorantly, to impose Anglo-American cultural practices alongside the gospel message instead of strengthening the existing Christian Churches in the region. The Catholic Church recognises its’ ecumenical ties with the Melkite, Syriac, Alexandrian, Assyrian and Maronite Churches in the East, and works for reconciliation with the Orthodox and Armenian Churches in the region.
 
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Praying for the Christian Church in Muslim controlled lands is very important. It’s one of the key reasons I’m Catholic, in fact.

I was fed up of hearing about Evangelical missionaries going out to the Middle East (and Latin America, but that’s another story) to “bring the gospel” as if it was something new to the lands where Jesus Christ and His disciples lived. I was sick of the way they came, quite ignorantly, to impose Anglo-American cultural practices alongside the gospel message instead of strengthening the existing Christian Churches in the region. The Catholic Church recognises its’ ecumenical ties with the Melkite, Syriac, Alexandrian, Assyrian and Maronite Churches in the East, and works for reconciliation with the Orthodox and Armenian Churches in the region.
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Yes, I do recognize that Broither Andrew’s contrbutions are a mixed blessing. Yet, his focus upon praying for our enemies is most important. It is problematic whether a Dutch protestant is helping or hurting the cause of the Church in the Middle East, but the principle of praying for ones enemies is very important. I also know that our Christian brothers and sisters who face threats from Islam every day are much more prone to pray for the Muslims in their midst than we in the West are. I think his message and mine is more for us than for them.

CDL
 
I pray for the terrorists and their leaders every night. I ask that God forgive them and show them the light of Love, Truth and Hope that is His church. I tell God I want him to do that so their souls are saved, but also so they will stop sinning.
 
I have a different bent on such things.

Apocalypse 22:11 “He who does wrong, let him do wrong still; and he who is filthy, let him be filthy still; and he who is just, let him be just still; and he who is hallowed, let him be hallowed still.”

The Lord seems to make it clear that He wants both the evil-doers and the righteous to continue in their ways so they will receive their just reward.

Vs 12… “Behold, I come quickly! And my reward is with me, to render to each one according to his works.”

So I do not pray for Bin-Laden. But, I offer the chaplet to the Holy Infant Jesus of Prague every day for the deceased souls. I wish Hell on no man. When I pray for the dead, it includes terrorists who have died.

When Bin-Laden dies, he will share in my prayers.

Thal59
 
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