Are you saying that works are necessary to earn our initial grace?
We’re going in circles. How many times have I posted this verse from Trent?
**CHAPTER V
THE NECESSITY OF PREPARATION FOR JUSTIFICATION IN ADULTS, AND WHENCE IT PROCEEDS
It is furthermore declared that in adults the beginning of that justification must proceed from the predisposing grace of God through Jesus Christ, that is, from His vocation, whereby, without any merits on their part, **
Are you saying that works are necessary to earn initial justification?
For what you call “initial justification”, yes. But not for what the CATHOLIC CHURCH calls the “beginning of justification.” NO.
Because grace is a gift from God, not earned.
The predisposing grace of conversion is so, yes.
We can choose to respond to it or to reject it. But we don’t have to earn our initial justification in baptism.
Nothing which we do, neither faith nor works, merit the gift of justification, thats also from Trent… But if you don’t have faith and despise your sins, and keep the Law in the Commandments, you won’t be baptized. Those are prerequisites for Baptism. Whether YOU like it or not.
THE MANNER OF PREPARATION
Now, they [the adults] are disposed to that justice when, aroused and aided by divine grace, receiving faith by hearing,[21] they are moved freely toward God, believing to be true what has been divinely revealed and promised, especially that the sinner is justified by God by his grace, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus;[22] and when, understanding themselves to be sinners, they, by turning themselves from the fear of divine justice, by which they are salutarily aroused, to consider the mercy of God, are raised to hope, trusting that God will be propitious to them for Christ’s sake; and they begin to love Him as the fountain of all justice,
and on that account are moved against sin by a certain hatred and detestation, that is, by that repentance that must be performed before baptism;[23] finally, when they resolve to receive baptism, to begin a new life and to keep the commandments of God.
Of this disposition it is written:
He that cometh to God, must believe that he is, and is a rewarder to them that seek him;[24] and, Be of good faith, son, thy sins are forgiven thee;[25] and, The fear of the Lord driveth out sin;[26] and, Do penance, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ, for the remission of your sins, and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost;[27] and, Going, therefore, teach ye all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you;[28] finally, Prepare your hearts unto the Lord.[29]
We could never do it. We are not good enough. That is why Jesus had to die. Our justification conferred in baptism was purchased for us on the cross.
That is why the Sacraments are God’s work.
740 These “mighty works of God,” offered to believers in the sacraments of the Church, bear their fruit in the new life in Christ, according to the Spirit. (This will be the topic of Part Three.)
“…none of those things that precede justification, whether faith or works, merit the grace of justification.” (Trent VIII)
Absolutely true.
Are you saying that he was declared just here by his works apart from Christ? The RSV says: "And they said, “Cornelius, a centurion, an upright and God-fearing man,…”
Upright means just.
The Douay says:
…[21] Then Peter, going down to the men, said: Behold, I am he whom you seek; what is the cause for which you are come? [22] Who said: Cornelius, a centurion, a just man, and one that feareth God, …
What’s your point?
CONT’D