"Hearing" God Speak

  • Thread starter Thread starter casslean
  • Start date Start date
I appreciate your attempt to provide your insight on this thread, but I think I need to focus on hearing from people who don’t reject the major teachings of Catholicism. It’s not helpful being repeatedly told what in “unbiblical” when we don’t agree that sola scriptura is the correct doctrine. And I’m not interested in debating sola scriptura.
 
No, the “problem” is that you completely lack faith, and will dismiss anything anyone says on this thread as “wishful thinking”, “confirmation bias”, mental illness, et cetera.

You cannot possibly begin to ever understand if your mind and heart are not open.

Weren’t you on the other thread associating Mary with idolatry? There are many things you don’t understand.

I’ll pray for you. God bless.
 
I appreciate your attempt to provide your insight on this thread, but I think I need to focus on hearing from people who don’t reject the major teachings of Catholicism. It’s not helpful being repeatedly told what in “unbiblical” when we don’t agree that sola scriptura is the correct doctrine
To be fair, I didn’t say what you said is Unbiblical because you reject the Biblical doctrine of sola scriptura. I said that what you said is Unbiblical because it is not Biblically supported.

What I said about sola scriptura is that it provides us with the tools with which to discern whether or not a voice is from God.
 
I think my hesitation here is that I have such a hard time accepting or believing that God would ever think my problems so big that He had to intervene directly, right then, to speak to me.
I think this too is a common feeling.
God sees every problem you bring to him as very important and He wants to help you with it, whether or not you get an “answer”.

Sometimes He’s silent. That’s for a reason. Like, he wants you to figure it out yourself, or maybe he wants you to grow your confidence in him so you love him even when He seems to be doing nothing to help, rather than get frustrated like some people do.

But sometimes he answers. It may be a subtle answer, and it may be a big obvious answer. The skill we have to all build is learning how to listen and hear Him.
 
No, the “problem” is that you completely lack faith, and will dismiss anything anyone says on this thread as “wishful thinking”, “confirmation bias”, mental illness, et cetera.

You cannot possibly begin to ever understand if your mind and heart are not open.

Weren’t you on the other thread associating Mary with idolatry? There are many things you don’t understand.
I have faith, I just have faith in God, not in you.

No, I didn’t associate Mary with idolatry.

You’re right. There are many things I don’t understand. Chief among them is why people who insist they’re responsible for “giving us the Bible” would hold it in such low regard.
 
It’s baffling to me why you would assume from anything on this thread that we “hold the Bible in low regard.”

Would we be flipping it open to see answers from God if we held it in low regard?

Not having “sola Scriptura” beliefs does not equate to low regard. That’s just a bizarre leap of illogic.

I’m done here. Have a nice day
 
What I said about sola scriptura is that it provides us with the tools with which to discern whether or not a voice is from God.
What does that mean?

If I did hear God, nothing I heard is inconsistent with the many, many messages God gives to us through scripture. He tells us repeatedly to trust in Him. He tells us we are not alone.

What is it about what I heard that scripture would suggest is NOT from God?
 
I don’t know why you would deny it. It couldn’t be more clear if he took a plank and whopped you over the head.
There is no comparison with what the OP described and being physically whopped on the head. This is simply confirmation bias at work.
 
Sometimes you open a Bible and it just happens to fall open to the exact verse that answers your difficult or emotional problem or question.
Sure it might statistically happen as would be predicted by probability but more likely you are interpreting an ambiguous passage favorably through confirmation bias.
 
There is no comparison with what the OP described and being physically whopped on the head. This is simply confirmation bias at work.
I’m sorry, but if your only reason for contributing is to deny based on a sola scriptura argument, I’m going to kindly ask you not to derail the thread. I’m looking at this from a Catholic perspective, and to be frank, I don’t care if you don’t believe Catholicism’s teachings, no matter how persuasive you believe your argument to be.
 
You will know when God is speaking to you. It makes you know and love Him more. When our own heads are “talking” it is usually centred on “I, me, mine”. When the “bad guy” - satan and people who want to drag you away from God - you will know by actions, theirs and yours, that it is not from God.

Sometimes God will be very “hands on” with us simply because we need it. Other times it is something simple like a smile from someone that shows us that we are on the right track towards God.
 
How would you know its God speaking to you if you don’t have the objective and authoritative standard of scripture by which to judge it?
Where in the bible does it say it is the only objective authority and nothing outside it is?
 
Where in the bible does it say it is the only objective authority and nothing outside it is?
Where does the Catholic Catechism say straw man arguments are a valid rebuttal?

Isn’t it kind of ignorant on your part to demand that I defend something I never said, nor implied?
 
Perhaps if you’re going to start a debate about sola scriptura, it could be done in a new thread?
 
God can speak in a “still, small voice”, and He can speak powerfully, directly, sort of overpowering ones faculties for a moment in order to convey a specific message (God can do whatever He wants, in fact 😁) The latter are called locutions and are quite rare I believe, while the former is the more common way that may leave room for doubt; God draws us to Himself first of all, asking for our faith, for our obedience, our cooperation without overriding our wills. He whispers, and we meet Him inside. There’s also another way, that’s not from Him, where we convince ourselves that we hear Him because we prefer to believe so. Finally there’re outright frauds who claim to hear God for personal gain.
 
Last edited:
God’s Church does not believe that any new revelation can be added to the original revelation given once and for all at the beginning of the Christian faith. She does affirm, however, that God can and does speak to people in “private revelations”, which can include visions, locutions (words), etc. This is quite biblical, but no member is ever required to believe in these revelations as a matter of faith. They are given at times for His purposes to encourage, to clarify, to strengthen, to enlighten, to help advance His kingdom in some manner or another, large or small. They have nothing to do with the crude nonsense seen with televangelists or in certain churches that try to cultivate gifts such as these, and end up making a mockery out of the real thing.
 
@Tis_Bearself @(name removed by moderator) @StephieNorthCo Very nice testimonies. God undoubtedly speaks to us.

[Sola Scripture only means “tradition” doesn’t have a role. The Holy Spirit speaking to us, in our daily lives, is not related in any way to “sola scriptura”. The subject under discussion belongs to “mystical theology” the word “mystical” meaning seeing God’s action in our (daily) lives. Scripture itself has Jesus telling us His time had come also so that the Holy Spirit (The Consoler) could be sent to us precisely for these reasons. We are living in that time, and the posts here reflect our relationship with and through the third person of the Holy Trinity, and His relationship with us.]
 
I don’t think he was hijacking the thread. If the topic is about hearing God speak, then I think it’s perfectly reasonable to ask what means we use to judge whether or not it’s actually God we’re hearing.
 
Sola Scripture only means “tradition” doesn’t have a role.
That’s actually not what it means at all. It just means that, of all of the other sources we have, God’s Word is the highest.
 
Back
Top