Hearing someone speak bad about the BVM

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Today, I was sitting with someone talking. The person I was talking to made an impure Joke about Our Lady. This girl isn’t religious. I got very offended…I told her I don’t like what she said and not to say it because it makes me cringe. I didn’t show my anger but i habe a sick feeling, I feel as though i did not defend our lady as well as I should have.
 
I think you did a good job. Plus it’s hard to think of what to say in the moment. You defended Our Lady. Don’t be too hard on yourself.
 
Yes, when she said, she said it because she thought she was being funny not to attack me.
 
You’re struggling with the tension (the conflict, even) between your religious commitment (which is a holy thing) and Western’s society’s unwritten rule that everyone must remain polite regardless of what anyone says, even if that egregiously offends religious sentiments. This problem does not exist in other cultures: try cracking a joke about Muhammad among muslims, or about Shiva or Krishna among Hindus. They’ll go off like a bomb, and will absolutely not feel guilty about it afterwards. Westerners “sense” this, so even hardcore atheists mind their words when they’re visiting “exotic” lands. In the West though, the burden falls on the religious individual: you must swallow everything because the other is either “entitled to their opinion” or “just joking”. Well, I say there’s no need to remain civilized when it comes to this kind of thing. It’s okay to get angry. You have to draw the line somewhere, and jokes about the BVM are definitely beyond that line. In short, your anger was justified. As for the question whether you could have done a better job defending the BVM, I wouldn’t recommend getting into that. An irreligious person can’t be “convinced”, and it’s likely to only frustrate you more when you discover in the course of a “reasonable talk” that whever you say, it’s not working and they still feel they have the right to crack such jokes.
 
You did what was right, sticking up for the Blessed Virgin Mary and your faith in front of a fellow person which can be a hard thing to muster up the courage to do. Mary is very glad you came to her aid!

I pray that the girl who said the offensive comment knows the healing power of Jesus in her life and eventually comes to know the wonders of Mary.

St. Michael the Archangel, pray for us!
 
Ah. Some might not possibly realize what they are saying.

There’s kindly saying…
" 😞(Name here), I would really appreciate it if you didn’t joke that way about the mother of God."

I don’t know if you should add “not in my presence.” Or not.

I’ll leave that for Catholics to decide. 🤔
 
If someone can say something bad about another (particularly the greatest saint that ever lived), then they can stand to hear something good about them as well.

If someone wants to joke about the Blessed Mother in particular, you can always mention how she never sinned, how she had to watch her Son die (and you could always remind them that He died so that the sin they committed could be forgiven), etc.
 
During your defense you might simply “cast your pearls before swine”, so it would be better to end the conversation or quickly change the subject, and later say one prayer in reparation and another one for that person’s soul.
 
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I think you said enough. What else is needed? Your comment might even challenge an awakening of her conscience.

Peace and God Bless you,
I think you are braver than me!
Debbie
 
I mean… She’s our mother.

If someone insults your mother, usually people don’t take kindly to that.
 
Thanks everyone I feel better I ask you all to make a prayer of reperation to the blessed virgin Mary in your prayers throughout the day
 
Don’t be too hard on yourself about the incident. It was good that you said something. I think it’s hard to respond to someone who takes the Name of God in vain, for example.

Paragraph 1735 says that a person has reduced or nullified responsibility if they do not have knowledge that some action is a sin. It’s hard to tell if she knew enough although she seems to know something.

It’s out of place to refer to Mary in football, for example, a “Hail Mary” play or pass to be specific.

Maybe that was best to say you were offended by what she said.

I don’t know if you both are old enough to speak about this objectively, for example, to mention that anti-Christian slurs seem to be politically correct, a prejudice that people feel free to indulge in.

People “push” against religious belief, but they resent when you push back. That is a type of “witness” when you do push back. Some people act deeply offended if someone uses the wrong pronoun to refer to them. Teachers walk a very thin line about touchy subjects like this. But, to the point, there is not supposed to be discrimination on the basis of religion. No one should create a hostile environment about this.

If this happens once, you can do what you did and let it go. If it happens repeatedly it might be construed as a form of bullying. But, be careful, what goes around, comes around – so watch your backside if she comes back at you. Christ endured many insults. God says (in scripture) revenge is mine. If someone slights me in some way, I don’t have to get upset because I know that person will get what they deserve (as much as I will, for my faults). But, I have really seen people get paid back (or so it appears to me) in this lifetime. It has happened so often I cannot count the times. – and I’m saying, I didn’t have to lift a finger. I feel sorry for them when it happens.

An alternate response would be to say " Mary, pray for us."
 
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