Heaven for the non-Catholic

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Most religions believe in some sort of afterlife. Do catholics believe in levels or degrees of Heaven and Hell? and are there different heavens for different religions? :confused:
 
Madolaina said:
Most religions believe in some sort of afterlife. Do catholics believe in levels or degrees of Heaven and Hell? and are there different heavens for different religions? :confused:
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Heaven, Purgatory, Hell. Most people go to Purgatory first. Saints go directly to Heaven.
 
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… Do catholics believe in levels or degrees of Heaven and Hell? and are there different heavens for different religions? :confused:
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welcome to the forum 🙂

few Catholics told me Jesus (p) will fry me :eek:

One told hell is created for the person like Prophet Muhammed (p). Looks like no heaven for Muslims 😦
And yap some Christians told me it’s up to God to decide .
 
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many ( if not most ) Catholics believe heaven is only for them ? Not even non-Catholic Christians can enter there ?
 
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well , teaching of Islam is if anyone takes other deity besides God , then s/he will be in fire.

If I start worshiping Muhammed (p) , then my salat (prayer ) , zakat (poor due) , fasting will become useless . I will get rewards in this life only . Rewards in hereafter are for those only who worship God alone.
 
Maybe I have overlapped and generalized my research.Buddism is one of my topics. But I seem to recall Baptists believeing in ‘greater riches’ for the righteous which implies a differentiation of ‘rewards’.
Also, ‘once saved always saved’ and ‘once your name is in the book’ you will be admitted into the gates of heaven whether or not you are ‘separated’ from God by sin at the time of earthly death.
 
Madolaina said:
Most religions believe in some sort of afterlife. Do catholics believe in levels or degrees of Heaven and Hell? and are there different heavens for different religions? :confused:
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We believe in one God, one Lord, one Redemption, one Spirit, one Church, one Communion, one General Resurrection, one life and one Heaven, Hell, and Purgatory.
 
Thank you Eucharisted…direct and to-the-point. I appreciate the catholic viewpoint. I will continue searching and researching.
 
Madolaina said:
Most religions believe in some sort of afterlife. Do catholics believe in levels or degrees of Heaven and Hell? and are there different heavens for different religions? :confused:
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There are some wonderful Buddhists who sometimes are on CAF who would better answer your question but what I understand from them is that they don’t believe in a “soul” in the sense that Christians do. And they don’t believe in any kind of eternal punishment, eternal being the operative word. They work through their karma and continue toward enlightenment. The worse their karma, the longer it takes (generally).

I’m a former Christian, now an agnostic, and I tend to agree with much of the above Buddhist philosophy. I believe we continue, evolve on merit, to higher stages and eventually enlightenment (whatever that may be).

I was raised Southern Baptist and have two relatives who are ministers in that church and I have never heard anything about different levels of heaven. Of course, there are several brands of Baptists out there, so maybe some do think that way.

Hope that helps a little anyway. 😊
 
Eucharisted said:
And now you know.

And knowing is half the battle!

G.I. JOE!!
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COBRAAAAAA!! LOL… “Knowing is half the battle…LOL” I used to LOVE that show as a kid. The other day at Target we were shopping and I was in a stuper when I saw ALL of the GI Joe guys were back on the shelves!! Destro, Zartan, Duke, Scarlett, all of them! lol…It was like being in a time warp! lol I miss that stuff. Good times!
 
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COBRAAAAAA!! LOL… “Knowing is half the battle…LOL” I used to LOVE that show as a kid. The other day at Target we were shopping and I was in a stuper when I saw ALL of the GI Joe guys were back on the shelves!! Destro, Zartan, Duke, Scarlett, all of them! lol…It was like being in a time warp! lol I miss that stuff. Good times!
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Maybe they’re popular again 😉
 
Eucharisted said:
We believe in one God, one Lord, one Redemption, one Spirit, one Church, one Communion, one General Resurrection, one life and one Heaven, Hell, and Purgatory.
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True. Just to clarify, purgatory is a temporary stop in preparation for heaven. If you reach purgatory, you are going to heaven eventually.
 
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There are some wonderful Buddhists who sometimes are on CAF who would better answer your question but what I understand from them is that they don’t believe in a “soul” in the sense that Christians do. And they don’t believe in any kind of eternal punishment, eternal being the operative word. They work through their karma and continue toward enlightenment. The worse their karma, the longer it takes (generally).

I’m a former Christian, now an agnostic, and I tend to agree with much of the above Buddhist philosophy. I believe we continue, evolve on merit, to higher stages and eventually enlightenment (whatever that may be).

I was raised Southern Baptist and have two relatives who are ministers in that church and I have never heard anything about different levels of heaven. Of course, there are several brands of Baptists out there, so maybe some do think that way.

Hope that helps a little anyway. 😊
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Yes…it helps. I too was raised Baptist. Not that there are levels of heaven but that each one has different ‘rewards’. I recently attended a catholic wedding and found it quite interesting…the pagentry and solemnty (sp) were almost overwhelming.
Agnostic…this I need to add to the research. Atheists do not believe? agnostics are open to believing?waiting to be convinced?
 
Oh Really? I find it funny that NO ONE has actually just posted the straight forward teaching of the Holy Catholic Church.

From the Catechism:

“Outside the Church there is no salvation”

846
How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers?335 Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:
Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. ***Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.***336

From Pope Eugene IV, the Bull Cantate Domino, Council of Florence,1441:

“The most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics, can have a share in life eternal; but that they will go into the eternal fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless before death they are joined with Her; and that so important is the unity of this ecclesiastical body that only those remaining within this unity can profit by the sacraments of the Church unto salvation, and they alone can receive an eternal recompense for their fasts, their almsgivings, their other works of Christian piety and the duties of a Christian soldier. No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the name of Christ, can be saved, unless he remain within the bosom and the unity of the Catholic Church.”

The official Dogma in the list of dogmas is in my sig and is translated "outside the church there is ***NO ***Salvation
 
Brian777 said:
Oh Really? I find it funny that NO ONE has actually just posted the straight forward teaching of the Holy Catholic Church.

From the Catechism:

“Outside the Church there is no salvation”

846
How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers?335 Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:
Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. ***Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.***336

From Pope Eugene IV, the Bull Cantate Domino, Council of Florence,1441:

“The most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics, can have a share in life eternal; but that they will go into the eternal fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless before death they are joined with Her; and that so important is the unity of this ecclesiastical body that only those remaining within this unity can profit by the sacraments of the Church unto salvation, and they alone can receive an eternal recompense for their fasts, their almsgivings, their other works of Christian piety and the duties of a Christian soldier. No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the name of Christ, can be saved, unless he remain within the bosom and the unity of the Catholic Church.”

The official Dogma in the list of dogmas is in my sig and is translated "outside the church there is ***NO ***Salvation
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Why does it only count if one is a member of the Catholic church? If ‘church’ is symbolic of unity with Christ why doesn’t every church qualify for sanctuary or salvation?
 
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I think like this : the most major
sin is take deity besides God Almighty . We must not worship any creation of God .

If I take Muhammed (p) as deity , I deserve to be burned in fire forever. If I/ Muslims don’t take other deity , then let the Christianity or Judaism or Hinduism be the true religion , for worshiping one God only , Muslims at least don’t deserve hellfire .

It’s ok If Jesus (p) or Buddha keep hanging us between hell & heaven but fry us in hell fire ? That will be an injustice to us 😛
 
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