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I know more about hell then I do about Heaven, sadly, most Christians are the same boat, no wonder we have so many misconceptions about the fire and brimstone perspectives we often get tagged with by non believers.

There is some details about the 1000 reign of Christ, speaking much about how things are going to be far better then now, basically a return of Eden, but Heaven, that’s something else all together, it’s far different of an event, place, and state of being, and it’s often misrepresented by that 1000 year reign, time frame wise.

What I do know is more abstract detail wise, the essence of it all, but not the details of it all, and this clearly is something lacking, for it’s more real, then this finite, limited universe we live in now., why don’t we take more stock into knowing what it’s like then simply focusing on the advantages of following God’s ways in the here and now., and pointing out how the here and now benefits.

When I look at it in the here and now, I think, yes, I’ll be in a state of total happiness and bliss, but will I still keep my identity in tact, such as I’m an artist and musician, I’d like to continue to learn, advance, and express myself through that, not just have it all known, all figured out for me and the living element of this persons being having no more reason for being the way I am., I was born an artist, that is what I do now, and it’s a big part of me., I wouldn’t want to give that up since it defines my character just as I wouldn’t want any of my cats to give up any of their identities since it makes them unique and endears them to me more.

We can speculate as to what it will be like and come up with a giant range of things, we even have the Mormon religion taking that element to total extremes which shows this topic can become dangerous if we don’t have our facts biblical and completely accurate. I for one would rather not speculate if there is correct knowledge to draw upon. So, out of curiosity, I started this thread to start a dialog about it and to ask the question, what would it be like.
 
Some things can’t be put in earthly language. Heaven is the epitome of what can’t be described in our terms.

This is barely scratching the surface, but I can say that what I’d feel there is true freedom.
Heaven is home. We are all homeless until we get there.
 
What I do know is more abstract detail wise, the essence of it all, but not the details of it all, and this clearly is something lacking, for it’s more real, then this finite, limited universe we live in now., why don’t we take more stock into knowing what it’s like
Because for most of us it isn’t so real. The Church is sadly lacking in “human escahtology.” Most average sinners do not believe Heaven to be much more than a shadow of human life as we know it; if that were not so there would be more “average saints.” :):):)ICXC NIKA
 
The beatific vision! I think those are my favorite words in the English language …

“And we all, with unveiled faces, beholding the glory of the Lord, are being changed into his likeness from one degree of glory to another” (2 Cor. 3:18).

“We shall see Him as He is.” (1 Jn. 3:2)

“They shall see his face, and his name shall be on their foreheads. And night shall be no more; they need no light of lamp or sun, for the Lord God will be their light, and they shall reign forever and ever.” (Rev. 22:4-5)

St. Thomas says we will see and understand God in His essence and will see and understand all creation in Him, eternally.
 
I know more about hell then I do about Heaven, sadly, most Christians are the same boat, no wonder we have so many misconceptions about the fire and brimstone perspectives we often get tagged with by non believers.

There is some details about the 1000 reign of Christ, speaking much about how things are going to be far better then now, basically a return of Eden, but Heaven, that’s something else all together, it’s far different of an event, place, and state of being, and it’s often misrepresented by that 1000 year reign, time frame wise.

What I do know is more abstract detail wise, the essence of it all, but not the details of it all, and this clearly is something lacking, for it’s more real, then this finite, limited universe we live in now., why don’t we take more stock into knowing what it’s like then simply focusing on the advantages of following God’s ways in the here and now., and pointing out how the here and now benefits.

When I look at it in the here and now, I think, yes, I’ll be in a state of total happiness and bliss, but will I still keep my identity in tact, such as I’m an artist and musician, I’d like to continue to learn, advance, and express myself through that, not just have it all known, all figured out for me and the living element of this persons being having no more reason for being the way I am., I was born an artist, that is what I do now, and it’s a big part of me., I wouldn’t want to give that up since it defines my character just as I wouldn’t want any of my cats to give up any of their identities since it makes them unique and endears them to me more.

We can speculate as to what it will be like and come up with a giant range of things, we even have the Mormon religion taking that element to total extremes which shows this topic can become dangerous if we don’t have our facts biblical and completely accurate. I for one would rather not speculate if there is correct knowledge to draw upon. So, out of curiosity, I started this thread to start a dialog about it and to ask the question, what would it be like.
there is not 1000 year reign in any literal sense of course…(tis symbolic language)

as to heaven…and the new heavens and new earth at the Resurrection:

vatican.va/archive/catechism/p123a12.htm#II

vatican.va/archive/catechism/p123a12.htm#VI
 
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