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But supposing at the end of the world, nothing is left. Then where would heaven be if it were a physical place?

Just a thought.
 
fred_conty said:
But supposing at the end of the world, nothing is left. Then where would heaven be if it were a physical place?

Just a thought.
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I guess Heaven would still be there since Heaven isn’t located on our planet Earth. I don’t think that all places in the Universe will end when the end of the world comes.
 
Faith1960 said:
I guess Heaven would still be there since Heaven isn’t located on our planet Earth. I don’t think that all places in the Universe will end when the end of the world comes.
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But suppose it does.
 
fred_conty said:
But suppose it does.
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Heaven isn’t part of this universe, because it is not part of time.

This is getting close to word gaming. If we define “universe” to mean “all that exists”, then Heaven is a part of it, and we have the question of its ending. But if universe refers only to the physical continuum, then there can be places beyond it.

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GEddie said:
Heaven isn’t part of this universe, because it is not part of time.

This is getting close to word gaming. If we define “universe” to mean “all that exists”, then Heaven is a part of it, and we have the question of its ending. But if universe refers only to the physical continuum, then there can be places beyond it.

ICXC NIKA
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Forgive my ignorance, but can you maybe go back to the basics? I don’t even know what it means that Heaven isn’t a “part of time” or how Heaven could be beyond the physical universe. :o:o:o:o:o
 
Faith1960 said:
Forgive my ignorance, but can you maybe go back to the basics? I don’t even know what it means that Heaven isn’t a “part of time” or how Heaven could be beyond the physical universe. :o:o:o:o:o
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Perhaps consider the following line of thinking:
Although there are sequences of events that happen in Heaven (timeliness), since it lasts forever, time doesn’t matter. Since time doesn’t matter, it isn’t a “part of time.”

Regarding being “beyond the physical universe”
Some people define physical universe as that which, we right now (limited perspective) can observe and measure. Given this definition, recognize that God placed a firmament between this “physical” universe and the Heavenly universe. Therefore, it can be stated that Heaven is beyond the “physical” universe.
So if one prefers to limit the definition of physical to that which s/he can observe and measure, then Heaven goes beyond that.
However, if one keeps the definition of physical open to that which can be observed and measured, then Heaven is physical, because Jesus can observe and measure the things in Heaven!
 
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