Hebrew Catholics

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Hi - Any Hebrew Catholics on this board? (Moderator, feel free to move this thread if its in the wrong place).

I’m a Jewish believer (not Torah observant, but one who celebrates the Jewish roots of our faith - Christianity) protestant, exploring Catholic doctrine seriously. I’ve visted the Hebrew Catholics website, but didn’t know if there were any who fall into this category on this Board.

If so, I’d love to dialogue on culture/tradition issues.

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Brian
 
I am originally from Savannah, GA, an American and Israeli citizen since 1975. I belong to St. Anthony parish in Jaffa and St. Peters Church, a Franciscan shrine also holds mass in Hebrew in the chapel. Saturday evening mass has about 30 congregants and they are mostly Hebrew speaking Russian immigrants. In Jerusalem they are mostly French. The whole community is between 400 and 600 congregants. Those that are Jewish according to Halacha are very small. In Israel since the Yom Kipper (1973) war there has surfaced a growing movement of mostly evangelist Jewish converts to Christianity (Messianic Jews) that number between 16,000 to 20,000. Some try to make a synthesis between Judaism and Christianity in traditions observed. The issue of Jew converting to Christianity is contentions to say the least and Christianity is held in suspicion. Even though is below the radar of most Israelis, Hebrew Catholics and Messianic Jews have lively communities.
In the 1950’s the pope granted mass to be said in Hebrew in Israel prior to Vatican II, most Hebrew speaking Catholics were French and Polish. The mass and traditions are that of the Roman rite. Attempts to create a Hebrew rite have essentially died out.
The attitude of most is integrating into Israeli society and to be Catholic. Whatever attitudes they may have toward Judaism it would be like that of Secular Jews.
The Arab catholic community in Jaffa does not want anything to do with Hebrew Catholics and do not want their mass held at St. Anthony church their church. St. Anthony does have masses in English for the foreign workers (Filipinos, Africans and Indians) but even here there is tension.
From what I’ve read from Internet, the Hebrew Catholic communities in the U.S are much larger and have fewer restraints. I myself, even though in Israel I am legally registered in the Ministry of the Interior as Jewish and have at one time practiced Ultra Orthodox Haradi (from the Hatzer of the Rebbi of Krechnev from Rehovot) Judaism, I have not tried to make a bridge between the two worlds because it is simply impossible and too much emotionally charged to attempt. Even though they are both from the same roots, they are worlds apart; they are 2 very different and separate civilizations. The feeling is that you are part of an underground church like in China.
 
The Arab catholic community in Jaffa does not want anything to do with Hebrew Catholics and do not want their mass held at St. Anthony church their church. St. Anthony does have masses in English for the foreign workers (Filipinos, Africans and Indians) but even here there is tension.
How sad! Then what do these Arab catholics believe in then? Do they not understand they are made one new man with the Jew? 🤷
 
I do not want to take this south and give a depressing impression but that is the reality of relations between Arabs and Jews; and Palestinian aspirations and Israeli identity. They are a small community of around 250 families and are fighting to maintain and protect their community, their identity, language and culture in a country that really does not suffer them much. There is still a lot of pain and hard feelings within their community along with the rest of the Christian communities in Jaffa over the result and conduct of Israel’s war of independence 1948-1949. They also have to maintain friendly relations with their neighbors the Muslim communities. The Hebrew Catholic community takes all of this in stride because like most Israelis the Arab Christians do not factor very much into their day to day lives and what does occupy their time is living their lives within the realities of a Jewish country and a population that does not suffer very much Christianity and the Catholic church brings up visions on the Spanish Inquisition of the controversy here in Israel over Pope Pius XII. That is the reality of Israel. With all that said Israelis are very tolerant and everyone voices their opinion and lives their lives. Being political correct doesn’t fly here and being frank and speaking your mind is a quality that is appreciated here.
 
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