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My whole purpose in joining this was to find out about conversion. I am Jewish. I believe Yeshua is Lord. I can’t stop being who I am. I am Jewish as much as I am female. I’m just don’t get the Sunday; Easter, Christmas, and praying to Miriam.
 
You might want to check out this website: hebrewcatholic.net I just ran into this yesterday online. I find it fascinating. Maybe the info there will answer some of your questions.
 
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My whole purpose in joining this was to find out about conversion. I am Jewish. I believe Yeshua is Lord. I can’t stop being who I am.

It might be worthwhile watching Dr. Pitre’s free video (here) and read some of his free tracts from the same site. He has some other things here too.

Many Jewish people who are Catholic don’t talk of “conversion” so much as becoming a “fulfilled Jew” (example here and here).

I won’t get too deep here concerning the “Communion of Saints” and asking the Heavenly beings to pray for us (you asked about “praying to Miriam”), but Dawn Eden (who has a Reformed Jewish background) talks lovingly of the Communion of Saints here.

In Genesis although we don’t see Jacob (Israel) “praying to Miriam” we DO see him praying to an angelic being for a blessing (“bless me”).

GENESIS 32:24, 26-28, 29b 24 And Jacob was left alone; and a man wrestled with him until the breaking of the day. . . . 26 Then he said, “Let me go, for the day is breaking.” But Jacob said, "I will not let you go, unless you bless me." 27 And he said to him, “What is your name?” And he said, “Jacob.” 28 Then he said, “Your name shall no more be called Jacob, but Israel, for you have striven with God and with men, and have prevailed.” 29b . . . And there he blessed him.

God bless you on your journey and I will pray for you.

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Just so you know, Christianity is not innately hostile to Jews. We view Christianity as a continuation of or a fulfillment of Judaism.

A Christian who is anti-Semitic is being unmindful of his spiritual heritage, forgetting that salvation originated from the Jews.

catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1300710.htm
Pope Benedict saw Jews, Muslims as allies in defending belief in God
written by Cindy Wooden, Catholic News Service
He used his meeting with leaders of the Jewish community as an occasion to reaffirm the fact that “the Catholic Church is irrevocably committed to the path chosen at the Second Vatican Council for a genuine and lasting reconciliation between Christians and Jews.”

As “Nostra Aetate” affirmed, “The church continues to value the spiritual patrimony common to Christians and Jews and desires an ever-deeper mutual understanding and respect through biblical and theological studies as well as fraternal dialogues,” he said.

Jewish leaders have praised Pope Benedict’s record on dialogue in several respects: He explicitly recognizes that a special bond continues to exist between God and the Jewish people; he recognizes that, for centuries, Christians used Jesus’ death as an excuse to denigrate – and even persecute – the Jews; and he understands that the contempt some Christians had for the Jews helped create an atmosphere that the Nazis easily and progressively manipulated to the point of killing 6 million Jews.

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Rest comfortably in the knowledge that your father, as a Catholic, is closely connected to your mother’s religious beliefs.
 
You may be interested in learning about Rosalind Moss, now Mother Mariam of the Lamb of God, founder of Daughters of Mary, Mother of Israel’s Hope.

She was born Jewish, became a Protestant minister, and then Catholic…And then a nun! She has a very inspiring conversion story.

chnetwork.org/2011/05/sr-rosalind-moss-a-journey-home/

catholic.com/profiles/mother-miriam-of-the-lamb-of-god

m.ncregister.com/daily-news/rosalind-moss-unexpected-journey#.VDe_LDgpDF

m.youtube.com/watch?v=yO51BBryfi4

Perhaps someone can refresh my memory about her relationship with the Blessed Mother. I vaguely recall she was encouraged to just take a chance and pray to Marry, in a “try and see” fashion.
 
My whole purpose in joining this was to find out about conversion. I am Jewish. I believe Yeshua is Lord. I can’t stop being who I am. I am Jewish as much as I am female. I’m just don’t get the Sunday; Easter, Christmas, and praying to Miriam.
Hi underHiswing,

I understand what you mean about celebrating Easter and Christmas. Although not Jewish, for many years I was involved in Messianic Judaism and attended Messianic congregations where Christmas and Easter weren’t really celebrated apart from seeing Easter as First Fruits, which it really is. But not being raised Jewish, I was never comfortable with Christmas and Easter being basically ignored, and I missed celebrating these holidays.

I understood where they were coming from, as they said that all of the Jewish holidays were given directly by God, and were commanded to be celebrated, whereas Christmas and Easter were not. But Hanukkah was still celebrated, even though it wasn’t given directly by God-It was a recognition of a great miracle that God performed. Just as Easter and Christmas are not commanded celebrations, we celebrate in recognition of God’s greatest gift to mankind-the gift of his son. I hope this is what you were meaning.

My husband and I still kindle the Sabbath lights, have Shabbat dinner, and recognize the Jewish holidays: not for any legalistic reasons, but once those things are a part of you, they always are. Understanding Christ’s fulfillment of the holidays makes Christianity so much more meaningful. Jesus came to fulfill the holidays and we will always recognize and appreciate that.
 
I’m just don’t get the Sunday; Easter, Christmas, and praying to Miriam.
What’s not to understand about Sunday, Easter, and Christmas? Sunday is observed as the Sabbath, Easter and Christmas are holy days. Judaism has a Sabbath and holy days, too.

As for praying to Miriam–I’m guessing Miriam is Mary? Common misconception among non-Catholics is that we pray to Mary. We don’t, at least not in the same sense as praying to God. We ask Mary to intercede on our behalf to God. Kind of like asking, “Mary, next time you see the boss, can you put in a good word for me?”
 
My whole purpose in joining this was to find out about conversion. I am Jewish. I believe Yeshua is Lord. I can’t stop being who I am. I am Jewish as much as I am female. I’m just don’t get the Sunday; Easter, Christmas, and praying to Miriam.
Thank you for posting. I’ll do my best to clarify some of your points above.

First, Catholics don’t pray to Mary (Miriam) as if Mary were a goddess or a deity, which would violate our belief in the Creator. We pray to her as an intercessor, an advocate. And we are to pray in a spirit of great humility.

We use the Lord’s own words, stated through the Archangel Gabriel, “Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee…” She is our most powerful intercessor.

If I ask a saint, or Mary or Joseph, to pray for me, that action is not idolatry, but a simple request for help no different from asking my brother or sister to pray for a friend in need.

In regards to the holidays, I think that there needs to be a real delineation between a secular holiday versus the liturgical season. The focus of Christmas should be on the Nativity of our Lord, not on the commercialism associated with the secular holiday of Christmas. Easter is about reparation of our sins throughout the season of Lent, the time leading up to crucifixion of our Lord, and the Resurrection (on “Sunday”).

If you focus on the liturgical cycle, and not all of the extraneous trappings of the secular holiday, these parts of the year are much easier to understand. (I would even go so far as to venture to say that there are many devout Christians who don’t understand the secular commercialism of these holidays either.)

Lastly, Catholicism is experiential. I really believe that it is difficult for outsiders to understand the Church without direct, committed involvement. That means attending Mass (preferably daily), devotion to the Rosary, regular confession, and daily prayer. The Hebrew Catholic movement which is primarily based in Israel, would probably be the best starting point.

As far as “stopping someone from being who they are”, Catholics are a diverse group, and come in all sizes, shapes and colors, and from every corner of the world. We have Irish, Polish, Latin American Catholics, among others, and yes, we also have Hebrew Catholics. Some of us say our Masses in the old Tridentine Latin format, other communities celebrate their Masses in Spanish, or even Hebrew.

We don’t ask our fellow brothers and sisters to give up their ethnic identity. In the Hebrew Catholic movement, many still continue to follow many Jewish traditions, all while still being in communion with the Church.
 
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