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Some advice, if I may be permitted please? I would advise treading extremely carefully when even talking to one of the Islamic faith. One wrong syllable, even, could cause the Muslim to become rather fanatical. Choosing words carefully in situations like this may sound like “political correctness”, but it could be quite helpful.

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Some advice, if I may be permitted please? I would advise treading extremely carefully when even talking to one of the Islamic faith. One wrong syllable, even, could cause the Muslim to become rather fanatical. Choosing words carefully in situations like this may sound like “political correctness”, but it could be quite helpful.

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I’d agree with you when discussing things in person.
 
it is not “small junks concerning the infidel”. THis is directly out of Islam, quoted by Aisha herself. I don’t think that its right for you to call Aisha an infidel or a creator of infidel junk. If it is junk, t hen it is junk that Muslims themselves wrote.
I meant to say ‘chunks’, not ‘junks’. But anyway, I also, like you, do not believe in Islam. But this doesn’t mean that I simply dismiss it all as the teachings of demons. The major problem I have with Islam, is that they believe Allah created things on this earth properly and in divine order. When my view is more that, since Eden, the whole human-race has been snared by evil. I cannot except that God made things perfect as they are, simply because of what Christ taught me.
 
I meant to say ‘chunks’, not ‘junks’. But anyway, I also, like you, do not believe in Islam. But this doesn’t mean that I simply dismiss it all as the teachings of demons. The major problem I have with Islam, is that they believe Allah created things on this earth properly and in divine order. When my view is more that, since Eden, the whole human-race has been snared by evil. I cannot except that God made things perfect as they are, simply because of what Christ taught me.
I did not say that Islam is the teachings of demons. I was referring to the doubts Muhammad himself had. That’s all.
 
Look, this debate is simply unnecessary, as Christians, we do not completely except Islam. But we look forward to the day, as good Christian, when all are made aware of the divinity of the Gospels, and the true nature of the father is revealed, so that we can become one in the spirit after having conquered the world and it’s ruler.
 
Excuse me?
That was not very “Christian” of you was it?
Very sad that new people are treated this way on a Christian site! Maybe I will find another to make a home for myself!
I think your response was uncalled for, considering you have only posted 9 times, joined the same day and do not list your affiliation in your profile. You’ve just arrived. Welcome. How about introducing yourself a little?
 
Look, this debate is simply unnecessary, as Christians, we do not completely except Islam. But we look forward to the day, as good Christian, when all are made aware of the divinity of the Gospels, and the true nature of the father is revealed, so that we can become one in the spirit after having conquered the world and it’s ruler.
I thought that much of what this person wrote yesterday sounded like Islam masquerading as Christianity. I see today, I’m not the only one who thought that. Clovis, it’s very odd for a Christian to speak of “infidels” and “conquering the world”. What gives? :confused:
 
There are deep dark secrets behind the creation of all of God’s cultures from the separations at Babel; and I, being wise and fearful of God, and not going to simply dismiss all these differences as the incarnations of demons, for a I fear God’s wrath. The mysteries of Ham, Nimrod, and Cush are deep within the wounds of oppression and choosing the dark, not from evil, but from the routine annihilations; in other words, what the cultured Caucasian might refer to as nihilism, is pitiful speak of dust compared to the true pains of depths known to some. I pray for mercy from my Lord during times of pain, and I also pray either to understand the human condition better, not just of myself, but all. And if I am not fulfilled and understand, I pray at the least not to judge people.
 
Clovis, your English is very, very poor. What is your native language?
 
There are deep dark secrets behind the creation of all of God’s cultures from the separations at Babel; and I, being wise and fearful of God, and not going to simply dismiss all these differences as the incarnations of demons, for a I fear God’s wrath. The mysteries of Ham, Nimrod, and Cush are deep within the wounds of oppression and choosing the dark, not from evil, but from the routine annihilations; in other words, what the cultured Caucasian might refer to as nihilism, is pitiful speak of dust compared to the true pains of depths known to some. I pray for mercy from my Lord during times of pain, and I also pray either to understand the human condition better, not just of myself, but all. And if I am not fulfilled and understand, I pray at the least not to judge people.
O.K. Can you deviate from the script for a minute? Why do you speak of “infidels” and “conquering the world”? That’s what I was asking.

Oh, and what do you think about the world being divided into two spheres? What does that mean to you?
 
Clovis, your English is very, very poor. What is your native language?
How is it poor, and why did you bring it up? Could you understand the idea of what I wrote? If you did, do literary beauties hold such I a vain over your continence, or were simply trying to dismiss me as a an uneducated buffoon?
 
O.K. Can you deviate from the script for a minute? Why do you speak of “infidels” and “conquering the world”? That’s what I was asking.

Oh, and what do you think about the world being divided into two spheres? What does that mean to you?
Let me articulate if it still soared over your head. Islamic extremist kill the infidel. Extremist Christian craft a God in their heads which will burn their enemies in eternal hell fire. I would prefer the former, hence death instead of eternal hell fire.
 
How is it poor, and why did you bring it up? Could you understand the idea of what I wrote?
Unfortunately, no. We don’t understand it. The Curse of Ham? Cultured Caucasians? Not sure of the message. Can you rephrase it?
If you did, do literary beauties hold such I a vain over your continence, or were simply simply trying to dismiss me as a an uneducated buffoon?
Are you typing something in Arabic into Google translator perhaps? The translations don’t always work with that program, and that may be the reason we are not understanding the message.
 
How is it poor, and why did you bring it up? Could you understand the idea of what I wrote? If you did, do literary beauties hold such I a vain over your continence, or were simply simply trying to dismiss me as a an uneducated buffoon?
I bring it up because it is very hard to understand what you’re writing. Don’ t take it personally. What is your native language?
 
Let me articulate if it still soared over your head. Islamic extremist kill the infidel. Extremist Christian craft a God in their heads which will burn their enemies in eternal hell fire. I would prefer the former, hence death instead of eternal hell fire.
Sorry. We’re still crossing wires here. Do you mean you would rather be killed by Islamic extremists than hear Christians talk about eternal hellfire?
 
There is nothing left to say. I’m sorry for speaking in haste as I often do. I’m sorry but I hold the truth to be that everything in the end will happen exactly as Christ said about the two extremes, The Pharisees and the Sadducees i.e. the zealots and the unbelievers. Mankind will kill themselves! Stop accusing Muslims. Stop accusing a different Church than your own. Stop accusing non-believers. It is God’s will that everything that is happening is happening and nothing can stop it.

The Prophet Daniel - “Knowledge will increase!”
 
Umm. You need some SERIOUS HELP!
I AM NOT A MUSLIM!

I BELIEVE IN GOD AND HIS SON JESUS!

NOT that I need to tell you anything!
In another post you said you were converting to Islam because you were not finding the answers to questions you had about Catholicism.

Muslims do believe in God, the same “one God” in which the Jews and Christians believe. However, to be a good Muslim, you cannot believe that God’s son Jesus was divine. That is considered blasphemy to a Muslim. You can believe that Jesus is God’s son in the same way Mohammed is God’s son, but not in the way the Christian faith teaches. That is why I told you in another thread that you cannot be a Muslim and a Christian,

I think you might get more help if you went to the Apologetics area and posted the questions about Christianity that you have that were not answered, resulting in your desire to join Islam. There are many people here who are willing to address any questions you may have, in detail.
 
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Clovis:
Let me articulate if it still soared over your head. Islamic extremist kill the infidel. Extremist Christian craft a God in their heads which will burn their enemies in eternal hell fire. I would prefer the former, hence death instead of eternal hell fire.
Clovis, Muslims, all Muslims not just extremists condemn all non-Muslims to a horrible, torturous hell.

Ella is right in that your English does not sound like that someone who was raised speaking English in an English speaking country all their life. For her to ask you what your native language is, is not an insult of your intelligence. It’s commendable, if English is not your native language, that you are conversing in English. But there are phrases and sentence structure that you are using which are makes us unsure what you are saying. I too would like to know your native language and what country you live in.

A good part of the things you say do not sound like the things Christian say. Quite honestly you sound like a Muslim.
 
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