Help defending the resurrection

[mystagogia87]

I mentioned to a friend recently that there’s an historical problem explaining the origin of Christianity as a messianic movement given the death of its founder.

I said that there was no clearer sign that somebody was not the messiah than his death at the hands of Israel’s enemies. I said that other messianic figures around Jesus’ time got crucified and their movements went away.

He actually challenged this and said, no, after John the Baptist was killed, his followers kept saying he was the messiah. He said they were called Mandaeans.

Is this true?

 

[Cat_Herder]

Answer

 

[mystagogia87]

Thanks, but that link doesn’t answer my question about whether John’s followers said he was the messiah after his death.

 

[Cat_Herder]

Well, the Mandeans existed. They were a gnostic sect. They CLAIM to be the followers of John the Baptist, but the Bible is clear that John the Baptist’s followers were baptized by the Apostles and became Christians.

[BIBLEDRB]Acts 18:25-28[/BIBLEDRB]
[BIBLEDRB]Acts 19:1-8[/BIBLEDRB]
[BIBLEDRB]Acts 19:3-5[/BIBLEDRB]

So the Mandeans probably broke off from the Church and are just run of the mill Gnostic heretics.

 

[Pfaffenhoffen]

I mentioned to a friend recently that there’s an historical problem explaining the origin of Christianity as a messianic movement given the death of its founder.

I said that there was no clearer sign that somebody was not the messiah than his death at the hands of Israel’s enemies. I said that other messianic figures around Jesus’ time got crucified and their movements went away.

He actually challenged this and said, no, after John the Baptist was killed, his followers kept saying he was the messiah. He said they were called Mandaeans.

Is this true?

Do you see any “Mandaeans” around?
You were saying about 2000 years of Christianity no?
Well, there are stil Nazis today !!!