Help! I'm terrified to sleep

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I am not sure if this belongs here but here it goes,

For the past couple of weeks iv been having a reoccurring dream. I can hear something or someone calling from the ocean but its not in English but i still kind of understand it, its calling my name in a whisper telling me to come to it. Every time i go out at night to find whats calling me. theres a small boat at the end of wharf i use to go out on the ocean to find where the voice is coming from, and every night in my dream i end up on a large dark spot in the water, theres something underneath me asks me my name i don’t respond it tells me that we were once connected our bond was broken when i died (i died briefly when i was young due to an allergic reaction to kiwi) it asks me if i would like to join it again i say nothing it tries to convince me to join it in the water, when i ask its name it laughs at me and tells me it will tell me everything if i join it in the waters. its gotten more reassuring like it will be okay if i rejoin with it the past couple of days. It keeps calling me its little lost lamb. Is this the beginnings of a demonic possession should i see a priest? if it is a demon why doesn’t it just barge into my mind and possess me like they are perceived to do in movies and TV or do they need permission? I’m not religious or even believe in god but this dream is making me reconsider, sense these dreams started iv been feeling mentally and physically drained some mornings i vomit and/or just blank out for a while (5-30 mins) they are really taking a tole on me.

Help please, Grau

P.S. It doesn’t talk down to me or curse at me, it talks to me as an equal dose this mean i’m damned no matter what and it never shows its self just voice whispering from the water.
 
number one, demonic possession is nothing whatever like whatever you have seen on TV

number two if you have dreams that trouble you to this extent to even consider such a think seek professional and pastoral help

any troubling spiritual experience should be taken to a priest for discernment

any troubling psychological event that disturbing should be taken to a mental health professional to help you know what is going on.
 
Say this prayer at night before you go to bed:

Saint Michael the Archangel,
defend us in battle.
Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
May God rebuke him, we humbly pray;
and do Thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host -
by the Divine Power of God -
cast into hell, satan and all the evil spirits,
who roam throughout the world seeking the ruin of souls.

Amen.

Even if you don’t ‘believe’ in God–pray it anyways and see what happens.
 
Definitely seek out a good, orthodox christian therapist, preferably a good, orthodox catholic therapist who can help you with this dilemma. Finding a good priest and saying the prayer requested (St Michael, the Arch Angel Prayer) is a wonderful idea, too-may be life-saving and life-changing (for the good). This is very frightening and you shouldn’t go alone on this-thoughts and prayers :hug3::knight1:
 
barbfromtucson said:
Say this prayer at night before you go to bed:

Saint Michael the Archangel,
defend us in battle.
Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
May God rebuke him, we humbly pray;
and do Thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host -
by the Divine Power of God -
cast into hell, satan and all the evil spirits,
who roam throughout the world seeking the ruin of souls.

Amen.

Even if you don’t ‘believe’ in God–pray it anyways and see what happens.
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Yes, say this prayer. Also, do you have a Catholic church near you? Go there, and ask to see the priest.

This experience of yours doesn’t seem like “demonic possession” to me, rather “demonic harassment” which many saints experienced in their lives including St. Padre Pio, St. John Bosco, St. John Vianney (the Cure of Ars). It could also be just an increased activity of your subconscious psyche, without any demonic component.

Take action on both fronts - the spiritual and physical.

Spiritual actions: prayer, priest, keep some blessed object on your person.

Physical actions: see a doctor, who can prescribe an anxiolytic medication against your throwing up and blacking out, can enroll you into mental health therapy.

This way you deal with any spiritual and physical components of your problem.

On the spiritual front, pray the prayer to St. Michael the Archangel, see the Catholic priest, and ask the priest to give you a blessed object such as a Rosary or Medal (e.g. the “Miraculous Medal”) that was blessed by the Catholic priest. Put this blessed Rosary or Medal near you at night - you can wear them on your person (in your neck), or put them under your pillow, on your night stand next to you. There are a number of Medals, the best known being the Miraculous Medal. Holy Mary appeared to a nun named St. Catherine Laboure in 1830 and asked her to have a medal made showing the cross of Christ, the Sacred Heart of Jesus, the Immaculate Heart of Mary, and Mary’s picture with 12 stars around her head and with the inscription “O Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to Thee!” - this medal is commonly known as the “Miraculous Medal”. Ask the priest to give you a blessed Rosary, a blessed Miraculous Medal, hopefully he will give you both. You can wear that medal in your neck, all the time.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/72/Miraculous_medal.jpg/280px-

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miraculous_Medal

On the physical front, I’m pretty sure the doctor can give you some medication to calm you down and reduce your anxiety. He can also send you to a mental health professional to talk over any problems that may be bothering you and teach you ways to keep yourself calm and composed.
 
You list your beliefs in your profile as atheist. So what are you worrying about?
 
GRATEFULONEjim said:
You list your beliefs in your profile as atheist. So what are you worrying about?
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Be charitable. Maybe God is using this as a way to convert him. Not every person in the world has had a “spiritual experience”, so perhaps God is using just this to get the OP back on the right track.

Thank you,
Eugen von Böhm-Bawerk
 
Perhaps this could be the work of a demonic influence, or equally it could be comming from our subcontience. I’m not sure at this early stage if there is a great way to tell the difference, but I guess since you list your faith as “Athiest” and you are asking these questions perhaps we should approch the spiritual side first.

How “free” to do you feel in these dreams. And perhpas this is my bad way of asking, how contience are you durring this process? Do you have enough faculties to change the parameters of the dream? Can you alter your responses?

In that case, one could try as some one suggested asking who Jesus Christ is. Or perhaps you could try praying the prayer to Saint Michael rather than offering this “other” an answer at all. Perhaps it is worth seeing what the response might be.

I would also very emphatically suggest you build a daily prayer life. Start simple, perhaps a Lords Prayer & Hail Mary first and last thing of the day.

Now how much can you really gain from this? Well in terms of starting your prayer life we know you can get alot there. In terms of determaining why your having these dreams, I’m afraid we’re still going to be left a little out in the cold. The sad fact is, it’s still hard to seperate the human psyche from a true demonic influence some times. Perhaps this could relate to an early trama (like dieing?).

That’s why the advice to see a therapist is so important. Not necesasrly because the posters who suggested it don’t believe it could be demonic, but more because you can’t really know that it is demonic unless you can weed out more secular causes for the dream.

One specific thing I’m curious about is the bit about “we were connected before you died”. Do you have a suspicion what this other could be talking about with respect to this? Were you possibly involved in the occult in anyway before your brief death? Even playing with a ouija board?
 
GRATEFULONEjim said:
You list your beliefs in your profile as atheist. So what are you worrying about?
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You know, it just isn’t always an “us vs. them”… God calls all his lost sheep, even the ones that list their religion as “Athiest”.
 
Bohm Bawerk, I deleted my post so you can delete yours now. Nobody knows! 👍
 
Bohm_Bawerk said:
Be charitable. Maybe God is using this as a way to convert him. Not every person in the world has had a “spiritual experience”, so perhaps God is using just this to get the OP back on the right track.

Thank you,
Eugen von Böhm-Bawerk
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Charity is not what is needed here. Reflection on poor choices is. Love and compassion I offer to anyone who is willing to at least consider that they have made poor choices. This was the OPer’s 1st post. If the OPer has been having these troubling dreams that lay a question of whether or not he is being drawn in a specific direction, I believe that the Religion part of the profile should have been left blank. By even posting the thread it disproves the whole notion that the OPer is atheist. Sometimes it IS necessary to be straight forward to really make someone think introspectively. Never do I post out of anger or lack of love and compassion. I only want the poster to take a step BACK and consider what he is saying. By doing that, will he be able to move forward. In no way do I want to put a bad taste in the mouth of anyone who is seeking help. I would be the first to open my arms.
 
GRATEFULONEjim said:
Charity is not what is needed here. Reflection on poor choices is. Love and compassion I offer to anyone who is willing to at least consider that they have made poor choices. This was the OPer’s 1st post. If the OPer has been having these troubling dreams that lay a question of whether or not he is being drawn in a specific direction, I believe that the Religion part of the profile should have been left blank. By even posting the thread it disproves the whole notion that the OPer is atheist. Sometimes it IS necessary to be straight forward to really make someone think introspectively. Never do I post out of anger or lack of love and compassion. I only want the poster to take a step BACK and consider what he is saying. By doing that, will he be able to move forward. In no way do I want to put a bad taste in the mouth of anyone who is seeking help. I would be the first to open my arms.
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Or perhaps the OP is just trying to be fully and completely honest about their current religious state. Indeed his religion (Athiest) is important, because this tells us it is likely that he is very open to attack on many levels. Not just from having not participated within sacramental life, but also because we know Satan is ruining so many souls today through so many accepted secular practices (per the Diocese of Rome’s cheif exorcist).

The OP as far as we know is being honest, lets take him at face value unless we have a real reason not to.
 
I went to a Christian website for some guidance i can see how some will view me as a lier because put Atheist as my religion, but thats how i have identified my self for the past 3 years so why start on lie? Part of being a true Atheist imo is being open minded which a lot of others forget and act like there better for being one, i’m mentally stable iv been told the blanking out is from low blood pressure, the vomiting is anxiety and the dream is probably just night terrors, but all of this coming on after the same reoccurring dream, iv had night terrors before they just prevent me from sleeping, what i’m experiencing now truly different its like nothing iv felt before. Dose i prayer still work it haven’t believed in while? I did have my first holy communion when i was smaller. i don’t know if this will help or hurt those who think i’m a lier but i’m only 18 and i’m trying to stay rational but it is truly taking a tole on me. This will be my first night heading off to sleep after prayer, with any luck it will make a difference.
 
If you’re really concerned about something supernatural going on, look up your diocesan office, call them, and ask how to get in touch with an exorcist in your area.

He’ll be in a better position to give you advice about that than any of us.
 
HerrVonGrau said:
I am not sure if this belongs here but here it goes,

For the past couple of weeks iv been having a reoccurring dream. I can hear something or someone calling from the ocean but its not in English but i still kind of understand it, its calling my name in a whisper telling me to come to it. Every time i go out at night to find whats calling me. theres a small boat at the end of wharf i use to go out on the ocean to find where the voice is coming from, and every night in my dream i end up on a large dark spot in the water, theres something underneath me asks me my name i don’t respond it tells me that we were once connected our bond was broken when i died (i died briefly when i was young due to an allergic reaction to kiwi) it asks me if i would like to join it again i say nothing it tries to convince me to join it in the water, when i ask its name it laughs at me and tells me it will tell me everything if i join it in the waters. its gotten more reassuring like it will be okay if i rejoin with it the past couple of days. It keeps calling me its little lost lamb. Is this the beginnings of a demonic possession should i see a priest? if it is a demon why doesn’t it just barge into my mind and possess me like they are perceived to do in movies and TV or do they need permission? I’m not religious or even believe in god but this dream is making me reconsider, sense these dreams started iv been feeling mentally and physically drained some mornings i vomit and/or just blank out for a while (5-30 mins) they are really taking a tole on me.

Help please, Grau

P.S. It doesn’t talk down to me or curse at me, it talks to me as an equal dose this mean i’m damned no matter what and it never shows its self just voice whispering from the water.
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hmm… it does sound kind of strange. Actually possession doesn’t always happen like in the movies, it usually happens when the person opens themselves up through their will - the only door to the enemy is in the will. They need permission. (there have been exceptions but very rare, and for specific reasons).

I suggest…definitely don’t say yes to this thing, whatever it is. I know that you don’t believe in God, but if you can, maybe try saying the Hail Mary whenever this happens to you, or in the evening/morning: “Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death, Amen”. The reason is, - if this is anything demonic, - demons hate Mary and this prayer. 🙂 I also suggest talking to a priest not about this dream but about spititual things in general and maybe share your story with a priest.

I hope it goes away, whatever it is. btw I had really horrible dreams before I was baptized, then they stopped.

God bless
 
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