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Help me learn and understand the Cathoic way of salvation. My goal is to be able respectfully and correctly represent the Catholic way of salvation through the sacraments through the merits of Christ. I understand that salvation as understood by Catholic Christians is through grace alone but not through faith alone. Please teach it to me.
 
I don’t think you’re in the right forum for this.

It might be answered better in the apologetics forum.

God Bless
 
Help me learn and understand the Cathoic way of salvation. My goal is to be able respectfully and correctly represent the Catholic way of salvation through the sacraments through the merits of Christ. I understand that salvation as understood by Catholic Christians is through grace alone but not through faith alone. Please teach it to me.
I’ll TRY to be brief – sort of a basic outline.
I have to begin with original sin since it’s difficult to comprehend the “remedy” without an understanding of what needed fixin’ 🙂
  1. Original Sin:
    Consequences to our human nature: affected our human body (pain, suffering, disordered passions) and our soul (darkened intellect, weakened will). These consequences are not removed at the time we accept Jesus and/or are baptized; they remain.
The most serious effect of Original Sin in Catholic teaching is the loss of Sanctifying Grace - the supernatural life of God present in the souls of Adam and Eve. This Divine grace was never an integral part of human nature, but was a gift from God. It is the presence of this grace in our souls that makes us pleasing to God; that justifies us. Adam and Eve lost this grace not only for themselves, but for all their descendants.
God bestows many other graces upon us to aid us in particular ways or for particular tasks. But this grace is meant to be habitually present in our souls; to be always in the “state of grace”. St. Peter refers to it as a participation in the divine nature (2 Peter 1:4; cf 1 John 3:9; Eph 4:18)
  1. Atonement for Adam’s sin was necessary before this life of grace could/would be restored to mankind. (I’m presuming you are familiar with Our Lord’s sacrifice, so I won’t go into that.
  2. Restoration of Sanctifying/Justifying Grace
    Our Lord’s sacrificial death restored the flow of this life of grace. This grace of course, is invisible - undetectable to us humans. So, Our Lord graciously bound it to physical rites (the 7 sacraments: Baptism, Confirmation, Confession, Holy Communion, Holy Orders, Matrimony, Annointing of the Sick). Baptism is initial sacrament through which that life of grace first enters our soul.
God has bound grace to the sacraments, but that does not mean that God is bound/limited by them – that is, that they are the only means thru which He can distribute this Divine life to us. The Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC) states: * “God has bound salvation to the sacrament of Baptism, but he himself is not bound by his sacraments.”*
  1. Retaining the Supernatural Life of Grace:
    We believe that thru grave/mortal sin, we separate ourselves from God, the source of this supernatural life. To have it restored, we must repent and confess the serious sin. Grace is then restored.
  2. The role of Faith:
    For an unbaptized adult, faith is required before being baptized.
    For an infant being baptized, it is the faith of the parents that brings the child in to be baptized. They speak for the child. As the child grows, faith appropriate to his age is required to retain salvation.
That’s a brief outline. Feel free to ask further questions.

The CCC explains it in greater depth - and far better. Here is a link (click on the arrow at the bottom to go on to the next page):
vatican.va/archive/catechism/p2s1.htm

The following will give you the Table of Contents of the Catechism. It may help you find the sections you’re most interested in.
vatican.va/archive/catechism/ccc_toc.htm
 
Although one of the above posters may be correct in that the best answer you will get will be in the apologetics forum, this is not such a mystery that you can’t get a simple straightforward answer.

As a reference, you can look online for the Council of Trent, Session 6 text and it will give you what follows below but with a lot of explanations and terms put in there. Remember, one purpose of that Council was to present an answer to the Reformers, so you will see various aspects of Reformed ideas countered throughout the text.

Basically, Catholic salvation works like this. It starts with Baptism, which the Council calls “the first plank.” In that Sacrament, original sin is removed (infant)/original + all other sin removed (adult), symbolized by the pouring of water (cleaning the soul, if you will). Note that it is NOT the water that does the cleaning; it’s just a symbol. God does the cleaning. As the soul is cleansed, sanctifying grace (a “saving grace”) is poured into the soul (the term is infused). It is the presence of that sanctifying grace in the soul upon which we believe our eternal reward is ultimately eternal life in heaven.

That grace stays in the soul until or unless the person commits a sin so grevious in nature that it “kills” that grace. That type of sin is mortal sin, from the same word we use when speaking of a mortality rate. It means death… the death of that sanctifying grace. It is here where a major difference in Catholic and Reformed doctrines show up. In Reformed religions, saved is saved, you don’t lose it. In Catholic belief, you DO lose it if you commit mortal sin. Thus Catholics have something Reformed believers do not - a way to get it back.

The Council of Trent calls this “the second plank, for those who have made shipwreck of their souls,” a reference to a phrase in one of St. Paul’s epistles. This is the Sacrament of Reconciliation, or it’s more common name, Confession. Here there are three things necessary on the part of the person who has lost their sanctifying grace and wants to get it back:
  • There must be a contrite rejection of the sin, a desire to turn away from it
  • There must be sacerdotal confession of the sin (confession to a priest)
  • The person must perform the penance given to him by the Priest.
The other part of Reconciliation is priestly absolution. That’s why confession isn’t heard at Billy Bob’s house out in the garage on Thursday nights, because Billy Bob does not have authority to stand in the person of Christ, or in persona Christi as the ordained priest does. Note here that just as the water in Baptism isn’t actually removing the sin, neither is the priest. It is God who is doing the forgiving; the priest acts sort of as Christ’s voice in pronouncing the sins forgiven. Sin is removed, and sanctifying grace is again infused in the soul. Should the person commit a mortal sin after that, they must repeat the second plank, (i.e. - go to confession and have the sin removed/grace restored).

So you can see that asking a Catholic “are they saved?” can produce different answers depending on whether they are in that state of sanctifying grace or not. Catholics don’t like to count their chickens before they hatch, so to speak, so while we have faith we will get a reward commensurate with our state of grace at the time of death, we don’t presume to definitively pronounce "what God will do with us. There could be something in us Christ as our judge would see that we don’t. But again, that’s not to say we walk around answering that question with a shoulder shrug. We have faith that what we do will result in reward.

Penance is a confusing thing sometimes because it can seem to Reformers that we find Christ’s sacrifice insufficient, or even worse, that God would. It isn’t. It’s more than sufficient to do anything with us He will. But we believe that a person’s attitude and how they live and respond to grace counts for something. This is not exactly the same but is a similar concept to how Reformers view how a person claiming to be saved lives, and if they live licentiously, it begs the question if they were truly saved at all.

This “something” we call merit. Now the Catholic church recognizes two different kinds of merit: condign merit (meritum de condigno) and congruous merit (meritum de congruo). To understand the difference, think about a courtroom and a judge and a person on trial for something. If the defendant did something of merit, something really spectacular, such a meritorious act would actually impose an obligation on the judge to recognize that merit, and if he didn’t, the defendant would actually suffer an INjustice as a result. That would be condign merit. Congruous merit is real merit but is not in the same league. Instead of imposing an obligation on the judge, it would be more like giving the judge a good reason to reduce the sentence. Appropriate versus mandatory, in other words. That’s what our penances result in… congruous merit.

Now stacking that small but significant merit up against the sacrifice of Christ on the cross, of course there is no comparison at all. Anything we do pales by comparison. But there is a reason for having it, or more to the point, trying to earn it by doing those penances. Think of Jesus’ parable about the 3 servants and the talents. These merits are the famous (or infamous) “works” of the Catholics. This is just the very tip of the iceberg as it relates to penance, and I’ve not done a very thorough job explaining the “why” of it to you. But suffice it to say that in a side-by-side comparison using some of the Solas, it would look like this:

Reformed: Sola Fide (Faith alone)
Catholic: Faith + works

I think that will give you a good start.
 
Thanks for the help and for future postings. I will study it when I have time.
 
we believe in salvation by grace alone through faith working in love; faith that includes works (James 2) 🙂 We believe salvation involves a transformation and in infused rather than imputed righteousness. God bless.
 
This is how I explained it to my 6 year old son.
Grace is God choosing to give us the gift of salvation.
Faith is is our receiving and opening that gift
Works is our choosing to use and enjoy that gift.
In order for the gift to be useful in our life, we need to have all 3 of these.

Here is a website explaining all this with bible verses as proof:

home.inreach.com/bstanley/works.htm
 
The Catholic Way of Salvation, which is the Biblical one, is a life-long process.

It’s not somthing you can reduce to four spiritual laws.
 
I’ll TRY to be brief – sort of a basic outline.
I have to begin with original sin since it’s difficult to comprehend the “remedy” without an understanding of what needed fixin’ 🙂
  1. Original Sin:
    Consequences to our human nature: affected our human body (pain, suffering, disordered passions) and our soul (darkened intellect, weakened will). These consequences are not removed at the time we accept Jesus and/or are baptized; they remain.
The most serious effect of Original Sin in Catholic teaching is the loss of Sanctifying Grace - the supernatural life of God present in the souls of Adam and Eve. This Divine grace was never an integral part of human nature, but was a gift from God. It is the presence of this grace in our souls that makes us pleasing to God; that justifies us. Adam and Eve lost this grace not only for themselves, but for all their descendants.
God bestows many other graces upon us to aid us in particular ways or for particular tasks. But this grace is meant to be habitually present in our souls; to be always in the “state of grace”. St. Peter refers to it as a participation in the divine nature (2 Peter 1:4; cf 1 John 3:9; Eph 4:18)
  1. Atonement for Adam’s sin was necessary before this life of grace could/would be restored to mankind. (I’m presuming you are familiar with Our Lord’s sacrifice, so I won’t go into that.
  2. Restoration of Sanctifying/Justifying Grace
    Our Lord’s sacrificial death restored the flow of this life of grace. This grace of course, is invisible - undetectable to us humans. So, Our Lord graciously bound it to physical rites (the 7 sacraments: Baptism, Confirmation, Confession, Holy Communion, Holy Orders, Matrimony, Annointing of the Sick). Baptism is initial sacrament through which that life of grace first enters our soul.
God has bound grace to the sacraments, but that does not mean that God is bound/limited by them – that is, that they are the only means thru which He can distribute this Divine life to us. The Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC) states: * “God has bound salvation to the sacrament of Baptism, but he himself is not bound by his sacraments.”*
  1. Retaining the Supernatural Life of Grace:
    We believe that thru grave/mortal sin, we separate ourselves from God, the source of this supernatural life. To have it restored, we must repent and confess the serious sin. Grace is then restored.
  2. The role of Faith:
    For an unbaptized adult, faith is required before being baptized.
    For an infant being baptized, it is the faith of the parents that brings the child in to be baptized. They speak for the child. As the child grows, faith appropriate to his age is required to retain salvation.
That’s a brief outline. Feel free to ask further questions.

The CCC explains it in greater depth - and far better. Here is a link (click on the arrow at the bottom to go on to the next page):
vatican.va/archive/catechism/p2s1.htm

The following will give you the Table of Contents of the Catechism. It may help you find the sections you’re most interested in.
vatican.va/archive/catechism/ccc_toc.htm
Thank you. There is much that I agree with in Catholic teaching. I believe original sin is truth and clearly taught in the Scriptures. It seems the major difference between the Catholic Faith and historic Protestantism is how the grace of God flows to us as Christians… sacraments and through faith. I do believe baptism and communion are means of grace, and many Protestants have the wrong view… believing that they are only ordinances as compared to ordained means of grace. I believe grace received is merited grace that Jesus earned on our behalf by His pefect obedient sinless life and sacrificial subsitutional death on our behalf. How close are we as Christians in what I believe?
 
The Catholic Way of Salvation, which is the Biblical one, is a life-long process.

It’s not somthing you can reduce to four spiritual laws.
Oh, I completely agree that biblical salvation is a life long process. The Four Spiritual Laws tract is not very Biblical. 😉

And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose. For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified. - Rom 8
 
we believe in salvation by grace alone through faith working in love; faith that includes works (James 2) 🙂 We believe salvation involves a transformation and in infused rather than imputed righteousness. God bless.
We have much in common since we know that salvation is by grace alone. I believe the sacraments are infused as compared to imputed to us, but within the context of someone already justified through imputation. Since we both believe that salvation is by grace alone, we can see that salvation is through the merits of Christ alone, correct?
 
This is how I explained it to my 6 year old son.
Grace is God choosing to give us the gift of salvation.
Faith is is our receiving and opening that gift
Works is our choosing to use and enjoy that gift.
In order for the gift to be useful in our life, we need to have all 3 of these.

Here is a website explaining all this with bible verses as proof:

home.inreach.com/bstanley/works.htm
That’s good. I like what you say that grace is God choosing to give us the gift of salvation. Maybe how we differ as Christians is how we receive the gift of salvation? God chose to send His Son into the world to renconcile and reedeem us from the curse of the law. Maybe where we differ as Christians is how and what Jesus accomplished for us, maybe?
 
You sound pretty “Catholic” to me. 🙂

If you believe that baptism and communion transmit grace, then you are already more Catholic than those who do not. Now, I would investigate whether you believe Christ is truly present in communion, meaning it becomes His Body and Blood. (Read John 6).

We have even more in common than you think because we believe that grace is merited by Christ, not us, as well. And grace does not ONLY come through sacraments. Grace is a free gift of God, and it is responding to this free gift and developing faith that first leads an adult to baptism. Then, of course, grace continues to flow through the sacraments as the Christian grows closer to God.
 
You sound pretty “Catholic” to me. 🙂

If you believe that baptism and communion transmit grace, then you are already more Catholic than those who do not. Now, I would investigate whether you believe Christ is truly present in communion, meaning it becomes His Body and Blood. (Read John 6).

We have even more in common than you think because we believe that grace is merited by Christ, not us, as well. And grace does not ONLY come through sacraments. Grace is a free gift of God, and it is responding to this free gift and developing faith that first leads an adult to baptism. Then, of course, grace continues to flow through the sacraments as the Christian grows closer to God.
Thanks for the compliment! I am defintely catholic with a small c. 🙂 Historic Protestants embrace the Apostles Creed too. Sometimes I believe many American Protestant churches have left the centrality of Christianity that I have more in common with Orthodox Roman Catholic Christians than liberal Protestant Christians. I do believe the original Reformers believed that the two Protestant sacraments are means of grace but not grace which justifies or converts and unites us to Christ.

Here’s a question for the adult believer. Is he converted and united to Christ upon faith in Christ or at his baptism?
 
That’s good. I like what you say that grace is God choosing to give us the gift of salvation. Maybe how we differ as Christians is how we receive the gift of salvation? God chose to send His Son into the world to renconcile and reedeem us from the curse of the law. Maybe where we differ as Christians is how and what Jesus accomplished for us, maybe?
I’m not sure what your exact view on “Jesus’ accomplishment” is, but we would say it was everything. Without His self-sacrifice, the gates of heaven would remain closed. We don’t “earn” our salvation, but we must “work it out” (Paul) by actually living the commandments, not just knowing what they are. It’s what you might refer to as having a “living faith”. Christ won it by himself, but for us to receive it, it requires action and cooperation on our part.
 
I’m not sure what your exact view on “Jesus’ accomplishment” is, but we would say it was everything. Without His self-sacrifice, the gates of heaven would remain closed. We don’t “earn” our salvation, but we must “work it out” (Paul) by actually living the commandments, not just knowing what they are. It’s what you might refer to as having a “living faith”. Christ won it by himself, but for us to receive it, it requires action and cooperation on our part.
I agree that we are called to work out our salvation, but I believe the verse teaches that behind our working out our salvation… that it is God working in us to work it out. Do you seem to agree?

Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure. - Apostle Paul
 
Thanks for the compliment! I am defintely catholic with a small c. 🙂 Historic Protestants embrace the Apostles Creed too. Sometimes I believe many American Protestant churches have left the centrality of Christianity that I have more in common with Orthodox Roman Catholic Christians than liberal Protestant Christians. I do believe the original Reformers believed that the two Protestant sacraments are means of grace but not grace which justifies or converts and unites us to Christ.

Here’s a question for the adult believer. Is he converted and united to Christ upon faith in Christ or at his baptism?
There are other threads here about the Baptism of Desire which perhaps you would find interesting. I’ll try to summarize.

Faith is a good and necessary thing, of course, and for the adult it must precede baptism. If a person had faith and died before receiving baptism due to causes beyond his control, he would be saved. We would say he received Baptism of Desire. In other words, he would have been baptized if it were at all possible. (e.g. the Good Thief).

However, a person is not “united to Christ” in this life until one is baptized because that is the point at which one receives the Holy Spirit into his body.

Baptism is required for salvation because Jesus commanded it, but God may obviously save those whom He wills without it.
 
I agree that we are called to work out our salvation, but I believe the verse teaches that behind our working out our salvation… that it is God working in us to work it out. Do you seem to agree?

Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure. - Apostle Paul
Yes, we are the hands of Christ in this world. He uses us to spread His love and bring His kingdom. Yet, we are not puppets either. We have free will and we can choose to do God’s will or not. If we do any “great” thing, it is to God’s glory and we receive His strength to persevere. Yet it is always in our power to say “no, I will serve myself”.
 
There are other threads here about the Baptism of Desire which perhaps you would find interesting. I’ll try to summarize.

Faith is a good and necessary thing, of course, and for the adult it must precede baptism. If a person had faith and died before receiving baptism due to causes beyond his control, he would be saved. We would say he received Baptism of Desire. In other words, he would have been baptized if it were at all possible. (e.g. the Good Thief).

However, a person is not “united to Christ” in this life until one is baptized because that is the point at which one receives the Holy Spirit into his body.

Baptism is required for salvation because Jesus commanded it, but God may obviously save those whom He wills without it.
Is it correct to say that Baptismal regenartion (conversion through the sacrament of baptism) is the official position with exceptions (baptism of desire)? Does the Catholic Church teach that Protestants are converted (united to Christ) at their water baptism, even though we do not believe in the doctrine of baptismal regeneration in general?
 
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