Help me with some acronyms

[Kscrawler]

I’ve not been reading this forum for too long. I’m just fine with Mass in the vernacular, but have no problem at all with folks who prefer the Mass in Latin. But that’s where I get confused. Can you explain for me the following terms.

Novus Ordu

TLM (Tridentine latin Mass)

EF (Extraordinary Form)

My understanding is that Novus Ordu or NO refers to the Mass commonly in use in the vernacular today throughout the world. But do TLM and EF mean the same thing? I’m old enough to remember the Mass in latin, I was an altar boy who had to memorize the responses in latin. So is EF referring to what we used to call low Mass, High Mass, and Solemn High Mass, or something different. Are these the entire list of liturgical forms of the Mass now available, or area there others. Thanks.

 

[jfoges]

The Novus Ordo refers to the current mass.

The Tridentine Mass is the old Latin mass that was used up until the 1960’s. It’s called Tridentine because it was established at the Council of Trident (Trent).

The EF is the extraordinary form, same as the Tridentine mass

 

[Kscrawler]

Even since you answered me I’ve seen the following new terms come up.

Latin NO
chanted Pauline Mass

Are these the same things? And if so what do they refer to?

 

[James0235]

Even since you answered me I’ve seen the following new terms come up.

Latin NO
chanted Pauline Mass

Are these the same things? And if so what do they refer to?

The Novus Ordo Missae (Latin for New Order of Mass), often called the Novus Ordo is the Ordinary Form of the Roman Rite. As it was created under the authority of Pope Paul VI it is often referred to as the Pauline Mass or the Mass of Pope Paul VI.

A Latin NO is just this Mass in Latin instead of the vernacular. Latin is the official language of the Roman Rite including the Ordinary Form of that Rite the Novus Ordo.

A chanted Pauline Mass is just that - a Mass that is chanted. Could be in Latin or the vernacular.

A chanted Novus Ordo Mass in Latin is much, much closer to what the Fathers of the 2nd Vatican Council were calling for than the typical all-vernacular “Folk Mass” that is forced on people in the average parish contrary to what the Church calls for.

James

 

[Tina_in_Ashburn]

Just some more thoughts here…

ooh. I thought TLM stood for Traditional Latin Mass.

The Extraordinary Form is actually the Mass of 1962, which includes many changes since the Mass of Trent. There is the addition of St Joseph’s name in the Canon in the 50s. The dialogue Mass [where the congregation responds] got popular in the early 50s, as an option offered by Pope Pius XII. The second confiteor before Communion is dropped. There are other details that escape me right now.

Also, “Novus Ordo” is a broad term that can mean all the changes that occurred after 1968 when everyone was expected to say the “New Mass” and leave behind the old Mass. When folks say “THE Novus Ordo”, we generally mean the Mass after 1968 [Pauline Mass, Ordinary Form, Mass of Paul VI, etc.]

“Novus Ordo” means “New Order”. They called it this because they wanted to label the new ways as drastically different - so different, it deserved the label of new ‘order’ of things.

With it, many prayers and rituals were also changed, dropped or completely rewritten. Baptism used to be rather long and included an exorcism. The Novus Ordo baptism dropped much of the accompanying prayers and blessings of baptism.

The rite of Ordination was drastically changed. Where the old ritual stated the purpose of the priest in great length and detail, much of this is missing in the new rite.

Indugences were severely reduced to almost nothing for a zillion prayers and devotions. Very few devotions carry official indulgences now.

Many saints long revered over the centuries, including Saint Christopher, were dropped from the Calendar. Some got the impression that 'they arent saints anymore?" but actually we can still privately revere them, they just don’t have an official feast day on the Calendar anymore.

Sounds like you may be aware of all this, but just case, I thought I’d elaborate on the term “Novus Ordo”.

There’s a bunch more … but the point is, the changes of the Novus Ordo were innumerable after 1968. It was truly a new era.