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Stephen_C
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robwar
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This big issue is that this is a supervisor. he shouldn’t be using his position to promote his faith. It’s one thing to share, it’s another of constantly quote Bible verses at a subordinate and it is this kind of behavior is what shuts doors for any religious sharing in the work place.
This is harassment.
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JustaServant
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Exactly.
As a former manager this kind of behavior is always irritating. As a former ‘born again’ evangelical myself I never displayed that kind of behavor, although I did encounter it.
You go to a job to sell widgets. That is the only purpose you have for four to eight hours. I couldn’t care less if you went to the First Dead Puppy Cult Church of Anytown USA.
Want to prove your Christian witness? Show up for work on time, do your job, don’t call off every week, don’t gossip, be kind to customers and co-workers.
THAT is the best witness a Christian can have. Protestant, Catholic, Evangelical, Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, whatever.
I WILL tell you, and I mean no insult, but the worst workers I ever employed or worked with were “born again Christians”. I have my own theories as to why.
Bottom line, if this guy is using his workplace to evangelize, he needs a career change.
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agnes_therese
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I’m sorry, but you are wrong. A supervisor should not be using his/her position of authority to push their religion, no matter what it is.
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robwar
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i am wondering if Op could respond or clarify some things in a number of the posts on this thread. I want to think the best but one post and a lack of clarification can lead to suspicion.
I am hoping Op will respond.
I am hoping Op will respond.
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coptsoldier
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maybe ask your local parish if they can do a procession through the workplace for corpus christi 
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SisterSeeker
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Thank you all for the advice. To clarify, I am a desk jockey in a public sector HR Office. My born again Christian boss spends all his free time, which is alot, preaching to anyone and everyone. At first I put up with it but it got stale quick. I would listen politely to try to find whatever we had in common. 
. I put up a little tryptic at my desk because I knew they would be ok with it since most of the other workers also have religious trinkets at their desks, crosses, angels etcetera. All it did was cause him to tell me that Catholics are ‘wrong’ and continue the preaching. 
I complained to management, whose response was that they didn’t think he could stop even if they tried to make him stop. He’s a decent person other than for this proselytizing, right now my solace is that he’s old and will hopefully retire soon.
. I put up a little tryptic at my desk because I knew they would be ok with it since most of the other workers also have religious trinkets at their desks, crosses, angels etcetera. All it did was cause him to tell me that Catholics are ‘wrong’ and continue the preaching. I complained to management, whose response was that they didn’t think he could stop even if they tried to make him stop. He’s a decent person other than for this proselytizing, right now my solace is that he’s old and will hopefully retire soon.
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Kay_Cee
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I highly suggest checking out “Apologetics for the Scripturally Challenged” at the Bible Christian Society. This is a free download about strategy when engaging a person like your boss.
You can find the talk here: biblechristiansociety.com/download
You can find the talk here: biblechristiansociety.com/download
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sallybutler
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Perhaps if you say “Thank you for the reminder” or “I appreciate your prayers” or “would you pray for …” will help.
If he is getting close to retirement, he may be feeling scared of the next phase of his life, along with a concern he has not done enough at work for Christ. Perhaps knowing that someone else values him and his relationship to prayer will help.
While I do not suggest denying that you are Catholic, I don’t think putting it in front of this person is going to help the situation. I would also suggest that you pray for him, but don’t tell him. If he asks you to pray for something, say yes, of course. However, let him ask you to pray for him, don’t volunteer. He may or may not think that Catholic prayers are ‘christian’.
If he is getting close to retirement, he may be feeling scared of the next phase of his life, along with a concern he has not done enough at work for Christ. Perhaps knowing that someone else values him and his relationship to prayer will help.
While I do not suggest denying that you are Catholic, I don’t think putting it in front of this person is going to help the situation. I would also suggest that you pray for him, but don’t tell him. If he asks you to pray for something, say yes, of course. However, let him ask you to pray for him, don’t volunteer. He may or may not think that Catholic prayers are ‘christian’.
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Catolico65
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With all due respect God isn’t interested in man’s laws nor conventions:
Everyone who acknowledges me before others I will acknowledge before my heavenly Father. But whoever denies me before others, I will deny before my heavenly Father.
Will He forgive us for being so weak as to put mans’ laws before His own? Possibly. However, a true disciple is not afraid of hardships for the Gospel, in fact he relishes them.
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agnes_therese
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Well, I hope you’re not anyone’s boss. People should not be harassed by someone they depend upon for their families’ livelihoods.
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Catolico65
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You are confused, I have not said that we as Christians, whether supervisors or employees, have to preach the Gospel to our fellow employees only that we shouldn’t stop one from doing it nor should we deny Christ by not speaking when challenged.
Furthermore, regarding the boss in question, who knows if it isn’t really the Holy Spirit that has provoked him to be this way? If that is the case we are sinning by trying to quell the Gospel and denying Christ, not good.
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hollandmichigan
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you might view randy carson and his reply to the born again issue–
or you might ponder - how this person hears from God ?- or is he involved in this ministry application- to satisfy his own religious understanding-- there should be other areas of his life ministry-- where- there is “fruit” of the Holy Spirit - signs wonders and more–
or you might ponder - how this person hears from God ?- or is he involved in this ministry application- to satisfy his own religious understanding-- there should be other areas of his life ministry-- where- there is “fruit” of the Holy Spirit - signs wonders and more–
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KimberlyCat
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Isn’t this illegal in the workplace? Do you have a human resources department to report this to? Praying silently or having crosses, a bible, or bible verses, a Koran, a Budda, etc. in your cubicle is fine. But for a boss to say things like that to an employee is highly illegal. I’m 99% sure.
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JustaServant
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:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:
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Bruised_Reed
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The Holy Spirit does not force his will on people, nor is the Holy Spirit unkind or hurtful. I doubt very much the Third Person of the Trinity is involved here.:dts: The boss is trying to spiritualize his abuse thus making it “legitimate” his “duty” as a Christian.
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Bruised_Reed
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I did something similar several years ago.
My boss was encouraged to bring up talk about God and inserting her beliefs by having a subordinate (my coworker) go along with her praying, including praying in tongues and finding the occult everywhere and a lot of word of faith stuff.
I felt very alone because my only sane coworker had just quit and I decided I needed back up so I changed the desktop wallpaper to Our Lady of Guadalupe (it was December, and she is perfect for December) and also, hid Catholic items all over my office; they would only be found if a person snooped in my office. I rediscovered them all the time and they gave me the comfort of knowing who was really in charge.
Anyway, come January, something had changed. It was like a spirit of oppression was gone and the rapport with my coworker improved and we could talk and collaborate like when she first started and before my boss tried to “mentor” her. My coworker did say she was uncomfortable with the speaking in tongues among other things. My boss also backed off from trying to proselytize me but she may have felt I was a lost cause as a Catholic.
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PaulDupre1
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The company I work for recently put us through several hours of training on this very subject. The fact that your boss’s boss took no action speaks volumes.
What you have here is a hostile work environment. You need to report this to HR immediately.
In the training, they told us of a case like yours where the company refused to address the problem. The employee sued and the jury awarded her over $2,000,000 in punitive damages.
Tell your HR manager that your boss has created a hostile work environment and if they do not correct your boss’s behavior, the next person they hear from will be your attorney.
Document all of this carefully. Also, make sure you tell other people outside your workplace what is happening so you have witnesses who can verify your time line.
Remember, you get a whole lot of whatever you put up with.
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What you have here is a hostile work environment. You need to report this to HR immediately.
In the training, they told us of a case like yours where the company refused to address the problem. The employee sued and the jury awarded her over $2,000,000 in punitive damages.
Tell your HR manager that your boss has created a hostile work environment and if they do not correct your boss’s behavior, the next person they hear from will be your attorney.
Document all of this carefully. Also, make sure you tell other people outside your workplace what is happening so you have witnesses who can verify your time line.
Remember, you get a whole lot of whatever you put up with.
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Catolico65
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It some point soon no one will have to wonder why the Gospel is outlawed in the public venue. At least we know we are getting close to the final times.
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AbideWithMe
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Please, no. I sincerely sympathize with the OP’s situation, but to a certain extent I agree with some of Catolico’s points. Please Google “Walter Tutka substitute teacher”, if you will.
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