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A society is judged by how it takes care of the weak and elderly. It seems that the architects of Social Security and Medicare have listened to Jesus better than many “Catholics and other Christians” on this forum.
Probably better than the guy who wrote this too:

In recent years the range of such intervention has vastly expanded, to the point of creating a new type of State, the so-called “Welfare State”. This has happened in some countries in order to respond better to many needs and demands, by remedying forms of poverty and deprivation unworthy of the human person. However, excesses and abuses, especially in recent years, have provoked very harsh criticisms of the Welfare State, dubbed the “Social Assistance State”. Malfunctions and defects in the Social Assistance State are the result of an inadequate understanding of the tasks proper to the State. Here again *the principle of subsidiarity *must be respected: a community of a higher order should not interfere in the internal life of a community of a lower order, depriving the latter of its functions, but rather should support it in case of need and help to coordinate its activity with the activities of the rest of society, always with a view to the common good.
By intervening directly and depriving society of its responsibility, the Social Assistance State leads to a loss of human energies and an inordinate increase of public agencies, which are dominated more by bureaucratic ways of thinking than by concern for serving their clients, and which are accompanied by an enormous increase in spending. In fact, it would appear that needs are best understood and satisfied by people who are closest to them and who act as neighbours to those in need.
 
It seems that the architects of Social Security and Medicare have listened to Jesus better than many “Catholics and other Christians” on this forum.

And bette
r than this guy too:

Solidarity is first and foremost a sense of responsibility on the part of everyone with regard to everyone, and it cannot therefore be merely delegated to the State.
 
This reminds me of a real life example of community ownership of resources. Decades ago what started out as a quasi-hippie community began with the community chartering itself as a legal entity. The community then bought a very large tract of land, on which individual members built separate houses. It was not a bad idea, and it worked pretty well for a long time. However, the houses tended not to be kept up very well because the individuals who built them and put in the sweat equity did not own them. The community did. One person I know who was a member of that community came into an inheritance, and also completed professional school, and decided to build a new and better home. It was built outside the borders of the community, for the obvious reason that if it was built inside the borders, she would not own it.
This real life example sounds like a very poorly organized and poorly disciplined community.

Many members of Catholic religious communities don’t own their dwellings and hold things in common. They seem to have maintained things well for centuries in some cases.

The first church who brought all they owned to the Apostles and everything was held in common.

When organized by atheistic wicked men who do not follow what they preach, it is oppressive and it will fail.

Our society providing for the poor and elderly is not socialism.
 

And bette
r than this guy too:
Solidarity is first and foremost a sense of responsibility on the part of everyone with regard to everyone, and it cannot therefore be merely delegated to the State.
Your sarcasm is misplaced and is a red herring. He was talking about abuses of the system, not about the compassion to care for least by making a level playing field. Any large organization or government with checks and balances that are not enforced will have abuses. Having mutual benefits in a society requires us to still be givers and not merely takers.

We are the state. Many countries created excesses of benefits, not merely providing for the poor and elderly. We can avoid that by learning of the best and worst of each system.

The right decries redistribution of wealth; yet, by their greed and incompetence they allowed for the redistribution of wealth from the many to the few in the financial market. Many lost life savings and retirement money that can never be returned while the wealthy got bailed out and got bonuses.

The middle class is disappearing because the wealthy trying to be wealthier lost sight of a changing world and did not invest wisely; yet, they are bailed out. They manipulated our financial system and housing market and were rewarded.

Sharing the burden of being a society is not socialism. By trying to provide for the common good in areas like healthcare, a basic right, is not socialism. It can be done so all can benefit. Our right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is everyone’s right and duty.

Many have said that having affordable healthcare is bad because too many people will use it and overload the system. This logic is a crime of genocide. If everyone had to buy their own insurance this discussion would be very different. Those who have paid for insurance all their working lives only to have it taken away by denial or by sudden extreme rate hikes or job loss; know the unfairness of the current system. It is not a level playing field and the wealthy pac’s and lobbyists take advantage of that.
 
Gtrenewed
Many members of Catholic religious communities don’t own their dwellings and hold things in common. They seem to have maintained things well for centuries in some cases.
The first church who brought all they owned to the Apostles and everything was held in common.
Jesus does not condemn the possession of riches but, rather disordered attachment to them. Notice also that Jesus did not ask His Apostles to renounce their property.

In the parable of the talents, Jesus Christ, God the Son, lauds the servant who has multiplied talents – “For to everyone who has, more will be given, and he will have abundance; but from him who does not have, even what he has will be taken away. And cast the unprofitable servant into the outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” (Mt 25: 14-30).

In Christians For Freedom, Ignatius 1986, p 46, (with a new edition, since), Dr Alejandro Chafuen has examined carefully the teaching of Christ and wealth. Some misrepresent Acts 2:44-47, where the faithful lived together and owned everything in common. These so-called “Apostolics” were condemned by St Thomas and the Late Scholastics, who quote St Augustine. Why?
In his Summa, II-II, Q. 66, art. 2, resp., St Thomas quotes St Augustine: “Augustine says: ‘The people styled apostolic are those who arrogantly claimed this title for themselves because they refused to admit married folk or property owners to their fellowship, arguing from the model of the many monks and clerics in the Catholic Church (De Haeresibus 40).’ But such people are heretics because they cut themselves off from the Church by alleging that those who, unlike themselves, marry and own property have no hope of salvation.”

We see in Acts 4:34-35, A Catholic Commentary On Holy Scripture, Thomas Nelson and Sons, 1953:
(This) shows “that property was sold, from time to time, by the owners of it, according as the Church’s need dictated. The sharing of goods was always voluntary. The story of Ananias and Saphira, cf. 5:4, makes it clear that they were not bound to sell, and that after they had, the price was still theirs. When Barnabas gave all his property, such exceptional generosity was chronicled. There are examples of houses held privately in Jerusalem, !2:12; 21:16. St James, in his Epistle, reveals the existence of rich and poor there. The community of goods does not seem to have been very successful, 6:1, and other churches had continually to send alms, voluntarily, ‘each man according to his ability’, to Jerusalem, 11:29.”
 
Your sarcasm is misplaced and is a red herring. He was talking about abuses of the system, not about the compassion to care for least by making a level playing field. Any large organization or government with checks and balances that are not enforced will have abuses. Having mutual benefits in a society requires us to still be givers and not merely takers.

We are the state. Many countries created excesses of benefits, not merely providing for the poor and elderly. We can avoid that by learning of the best and worst of each system.

The right decries redistribution of wealth; yet, by their greed and incompetence they allowed for the redistribution of wealth from the many to the few in the financial market. Many lost life savings and retirement money that can never be returned while the wealthy got bailed out and got bonuses.

The middle class is disappearing because the wealthy trying to be wealthier lost sight of a changing world and did not invest wisely; yet, they are bailed out. They manipulated our financial system and housing market and were rewarded.

Sharing the burden of being a society is not socialism. By trying to provide for the common good in areas like healthcare, a basic right, is not socialism. It can be done so all can benefit. Our right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is everyone’s right and duty.

Many have said that having affordable healthcare is bad because too many people will use it and overload the system. This logic is a crime of genocide. If everyone had to buy their own insurance this discussion would be very different. Those who have paid for insurance all their working lives only to have it taken away by denial or by sudden extreme rate hikes or job loss; know the unfairness of the current system. It is not a level playing field and the wealthy pac’s and lobbyists take advantage of that.
Please drop the talking points. They get boring after reading them time after time.

Your misplaced notions of “the common good” will be the “common ruin” of us all.

A society must be based upon charity and fraternity, else it is bound to fail. And we are seeing that now both in The US and in the EU.

As St John Chrysostom said, Material Justice cannot be accomplished by compulsion, a change in heart will not follow. The only way to achieve true justice is to change people’s hearts first – and then they will joyfully share their wealth.

Oh, wait, he didn’t think much like Jesus, either, did he?
 
What makes Socialism unique is its reliance on central planning … and the inevitable compulsory aspects. Central planning has always been a failure and to achieve goals they need to adopt a totalitarian model.

Here is an outstanding and low-key discussion on Socialism and the very unique characteristics which lead to some surprising conclusions:

booktv.org/Program/12404/After+Words+Kevin+Williamson+The+Politically+Incorrect+Guide+to+Socialism+host+John+Podhoretz.aspx
I watched this program from the link. It is a pretty good analysis of the dangers of socialism.

booktv.org/Watch/12404/After+Words+Kevin+Williamson+The+Politically+Incorrect+Guide+to+Socialism+host+John+Podhoretz.aspx

I’m not sure why people would trust in the ability of any government to manage people’s affairs more than in the ability of people to make their own decisions, particularly in view of the dismal record of socialist states.
 
This real life example sounds like a very poorly organized and poorly disciplined community.

Many members of Catholic religious communities don’t own their dwellings and hold things in common. They seem to have maintained things well for centuries in some cases.

The first church who brought all they owned to the Apostles and everything was held in common.

When organized by atheistic wicked men who do not follow what they preach, it is oppressive and it will fail.

Our society providing for the poor and elderly is not socialism.
Well sure, if it works for monks, it should work for the United States. Of course, we might have to emulate monks by taking vows of poverty and obedience. (The State would not insist on chastity.)
 
Socialism isn’t all bad. I live in the UK, the National Health Service is definately the treasure it is today because of socialism. This is the kind of socialism that is almost Catholic, the fact the state pays for all to have free health care is an enforced charity nearly.

Also, i think socialism in one form or another has certainly helped the enlightenment of women, something which is to the great benefit to all societys that practice it. something i hope we all agree is womderful. something that all religions have had shakey pasts with, i would like to think that past is just that now, the past to the Catholic Church.

Though as people have forementioned yes it can lead to moral corruption and a sense of entitlement without deed. Like all new social movements, radical ideas cause swings in ideals, which rarely stop in an acceptable middle quickly, often after initial good work.
 
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gtrenewed
The right decries redistribution of wealth; yet, by their greed and incompetence they allowed for the redistribution of wealth from the many to the few in the financial market.
Sharing the burden of being a society is not socialism. By trying to provide for the common good in areas like healthcare, a basic right, is not socialism.
The evils of socialism are expressed in the forced redistribution which the Welfare State embodies. Yes, people, are greedy and selfish and that is precisely why society is beset by so many problems, and the bureaucracy of the State is no solution, only the practice of free enterprise by those possessing the virtues of prudence, justice, fortitude and temperance will help society.

Fr James V Schall, S.J., in Does Catholicism Still Exist?, Alba House 1994, p 184-185:
“Since the Catholic Church wants poverty confronted, since She wants this confrontation to be done justly and with the interest and cooperation of the workers and the poor, She has had to acknowledge, as did the socialist systems themselves, that there are certain ways that must be employed if mankind is to meet its economic problems. These ways can be known and imitated, but they must include a juridical system, profit, enterprise, knowledge, exchange, a market, voluntary organisations, a relatively independent economy, private property, and respect for work and excellence.”

That’s why we have laws to seek and punish those who steal, cheat, swindle, and worse crimes. That’s why we have the Catholic Church to guide us – She who invented charity in the West. It’s time to face reality.

No wealth can be created until it is produced – that’s why the Late Scholastic system works so well to enable everyone to produce some wealth and to do with it as they choose through free-will. Economic laws are based on the principles of human action – of cause and effect involving God-given reason.
 
hammerbaz
Socialism isn’t all bad. I live in the UK, the National Health Service is definately the treasure it is today because of socialism. This is the kind of socialism that is almost Catholic, the fact the state pays for all to have free health care is an enforced charity nearly.
This is precisely why Socialism is bad.

From *Centesimus Annus *(John Paul II, 1991):
“48. Malfunctions and defects in the Social Assistance State [Welfare State] are the result of an inadequate understanding of the tasks proper to the State. Here again the principle of subsidiarity must be respected: a community of a higher order should not interfere in the internal life of a community of a lower order, depriving the latter of its functions, but rather should support it in case of need and help to coordinate its activity with the activities of the rest of society, always with a view to the common good.100

By intervening directly and depriving society of its responsibility, the Social Assistance State leads to a loss of human energies and an inordinate increase of public agencies, which are dominated more by bureaucratic ways of thinking than by concern for serving their clients, and which are accompanied by an enormous increase in spending. In fact, it would appear that needs are best understood and satisfied by people who are closest to them and who act as neighbours to those in need. It should be added that certain kinds of demands often call for a response which is not simply material but which is capable of perceiving the deeper human need. One thinks of the condition of refugees, immigrants, the elderly, the sick, and all those in circumstances which call for assistance, such as drug abusers: all these people can be helped effectively only by those who offer them genuine fraternal support, in addition to the necessary care.”

“Note
100. Pius XI, Encyclical Letter Quadragesimo Anno, I : loc. cit., 184-186.”

This is why there are so many budgetary crises.
spectator.co.uk/australia/6866758/let-freedom-ring.thtml
Let freedom ring
Extract:
The mania for governments to solve all the problems of the world is, to borrow a phrase from environmentalists, unsustainable. It saps the body politic and creates a learned helplessness, turning citizens into subjects. It is also unaffordable, as budgetary crises around the world confirm. It’s time for Australia to give the nanny state her walking papers.

Pius XI declared emphatically in Quadragesimo Anno, 1931, #120: “If Socialism, like all errors, contains some truth (which, moreover, the Supreme Pontiffs have never denied), it is based nevertheless on a theory of human society peculiar to itself and irreconcilable with true Christianity. Religious socialism, Christian socialism, are contradictory terms; no one can be at the same time a good Catholic and a true socialist.
 
I would agree, to be a true solialist and a strict catholic is probably not possible.

would i be right in saying you disagree with the idea of a National Health Service?

Britains NHS is not perfect, and relies heavily on a strong private sector, but all should have the right to free state health care. that should be a human right, and it is in britain, and im proud of it.
 
I would agree, to be a true solialist and a strict catholic is probably not possible.

would i be right in saying you disagree with the idea of a National Health Service?

Britains NHS is not perfect, and relies heavily on a strong private sector, but all should have the right to free state health care. that should be a human right, and it is in britain, and im proud of it.
I won’t address the NHS or HealthCanada or Obamacare as that would be a massive derailment of this thread (if you want to start a different thread, I’d be happy to oblige, though).

The issue with the social assistance state is that it violates basic principles of social doctrine.

**134. **Authentic social changes are effective and lasting only to the extent that they are based on resolute changes in personal conduct. An authentic moralization of social life will never be possible unless it starts with people and has people as its point of reference: indeed, “living a moral life bears witness to the dignity of the person”[250]. It is obviously the task of people to develop those moral attitudes that are fundamental for any society that truly wishes to be human (justice, honesty, truthfulness, etc.), and which in no way can simply be expected of others or delegated to institutions. It is the task of everyone, and in a special way of those who hold various forms of political, judicial or professional responsibility with regard to others, to be the watchful conscience of society and the first to bear witness to civil social conditions that are worthy of human beings.
- Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Catholic Church
Nobody denies that a person should have access to health care. But, when such a thing becomes a governmental mandate, it strips people of their humanity. The wealthy are no longer called to personally perform corporal works of mercy (they are called, instead, to support higher taxes so that government can perform more). The poor are no longer called to be thankful for charity – rather, these things are called “entitlements”, meaning that they have the right to something. Those who work within the government system are not encouraged to help people develop independence, rather they are called to maximize coverage of that system – and increase the dependency of people on that system.

And by the way, this should not be viewed as a defense of the American way of doing things. It is not.

We need to, as Christians, work on a system that is characterized by agape – charity. The rich need to feel not only obliged to pay taxes to support the poor, but to personally get out there and work with the poor, to see them as individual human beings each with their own inherent dignity. That is not something that can be done by proxy. (a/k/a the principles of participation and solidarity). Governmental policies that violate the principle of subsidiarity get in the way of creation of that type of society. And, although they are done in the name of the common good…do they really benefit the common good?

**165. **A society that wishes and intends to remain at the service of the human being at every level is a society that has the common good — the good of all people and of the whole person [347] — as its primary goal. The human person cannot find fulfilment in himself, that is, apart from the fact that he exists “with” others and “for” others. This truth does not simply require that he live with others at various levels of social life, but that he seek unceasingly — in actual practice and not merely at the level of ideas — the good, that is, the meaning and truth, found in existing forms of social life. No expression of social life — from the family to intermediate social groups, associations, enterprises of an economic nature, cities, regions, States, up to the community of peoples and nations — can escape the issue of its own common good, in that this is a constitutive element of its significance and the authentic reason for its very existence[348].
- Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Catholic Church
The principle is that each person in society, no matter at which “level” he is, personally work toward the betterment of all in that society. Government social programs allow this to remain at the abstract for too many people. And as a consequence, “the poor” aren’t Joe and Sally, they are an abstract concept. As are “the rich”, from the perspective of “the poor.” And that sets up social stratification that should not genuinely exist in an authentically Christian society.

**168. **The responsibility for attaining the common good, besides falling to individual persons, belongs also to the State, since the common good is the reason that the political authority exists[355]. The State, in fact, must guarantee the coherency, unity and organization of the civil society of which it is an expression[356], in order that the common good may be attained with the contribution of every citizen. The individual person, the family or intermediate groups are not able to achieve their full development by themselves for living a truly human life. Hence the necessity of political institutions, the purpose of which is to make available to persons the necessary material, cultural, moral and spiritual goods. The goal of life in society is in fact the historically attainable common good[357].
But look carefully at the bolded part: what are the roles of the State in helping establish the common good? To guarantee coherency, unity, and organization of civil society. It does NOT say to provide health care, welfare payments, housing, and so on.
 
im personally not swayed.

“The State, in fact, must guarantee the coherency, unity and organization of the civil society of which it is an expression[356], in order that the common good may be attained with the contribution of every citizen.”

The NHS is a common good, if it were not there or taken away there would be less coherency, unity and organisation. The government isn’t doing it perfectly but it is reflecting the masses who know britain need free health care.

“The wealthy are no longer called to personally perform corporal works of mercy (they are called, instead, to support higher taxes so that government can perform more). The poor are no longer called to be thankful for charity – rather, these things are called “entitlements”, meaning that they have the right to something. Those who work within the government system are not encouraged to help people develop independence, rather they are called to maximize coverage of that system – and increase the dependency of people on that system.”

People whould perform acts of charity, of this we all agree, and a NHS does not stop this, the rich should still give to charity with their earnings after tax.

The part in bold offends me. This implys the poor should live to be thankful only, no they should be given rights that enable themselves to be empowered and live a better life. a national health service does this, because people aren’t crippled like in the US by the burden of bad health.

Who wants independance from good health? what we want is independance from charity by empowerment, like the great work done in africa building schools to educate, or wells to give water. giving just food would not be enough.

I think the system of government you really envisage in not a government we have now, is highly theoretical and is a co-operative. yes, ideal. No not workable because it would be unenforcable.
 
from Gtrenewed post:
Many members of Catholic religious communities don’t own their dwellings and hold things in common. They seem to have maintained things well for centuries in some cases.
The first church who brought all they owned to the Apostles and everything was held in common.
Jesus does not condemn the possession of riches but, rather disordered attachment to them. Notice also that Jesus did not ask His Apostles to renounce their property.
You have taken me out of context. I was responding to a post claiming that all “common property” communities don’t work.

I never claimed that Jesus denounced all riches but you have to admit Jesus did step it up a bit.

St. Paul also said that he knew how to abound in possessions and how to be abased of them. I have experienced both and there can be holiness either way.

The so-called “Christian right”, at least those talking loudest, are demonizing programs like social security, medicare, or universal healthcare. The problem is that they focus on the fringe and forget that there are millions that are oppressed by lack of access to affordable healthcare, or they paid into the programs for years on the promise of retirement benefits but had the program mismanaged and now let’s just drop it.
In the parable of the talents, Jesus Christ, God the Son, lauds the servant who has multiplied talents – “For to everyone who has, more will be given, and he will have abundance; but from him who does not have, even what he has will be taken away. And cast the unprofitable servant into the outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” (Mt 25: 14-30).
Not about money but is a parable, which means He is using an example the audience will relate to but has a meaning about the Kingdom that is hidden unless they are seeking.
In Christians For Freedom, Ignatius 1986, p 46, (with a new edition, since), Dr Alejandro Chafuen has examined carefully the teaching of Christ and wealth. Some misrepresent Acts 2:44-47, where the faithful lived together and owned everything in common. These so-called “Apostolics” were condemned by St Thomas and the Late Scholastics, who quote St Augustine. Why?
In his Summa, II-II, Q. 66, art. 2, resp., St Thomas quotes St Augustine: “Augustine says: ‘The people styled apostolic are those who arrogantly claimed this title for themselves because they refused to admit married folk or property owners to their fellowship, arguing from the model of the many monks and clerics in the Catholic Church (De Haeresibus 40).’ But such people are heretics because they cut themselves off from the Church by alleging that those who, unlike themselves, marry and own property have no hope of salvation.”
Those of the first church did exactly as Acts has said. But it was from the heart voluntary as Ananias and Saphira found out. If later people misrepresented them that was to their shame, not the fact that they did live like that. My point was that they did do that and it was not socialism but sharing for the common good. That is what our taxes are, sharing for the common good. One of the most basic goods we can do is to help our elderly live out their lives healthily.
We see in Acts 4:34-35, A Catholic Commentary On Holy Scripture, Thomas Nelson and Sons, 1953:
(This) shows “that property was sold, from time to time, by the owners of it, according as the Church’s need dictated. The sharing of goods was always voluntary. The story of Ananias and Saphira, cf. 5:4, makes it clear that they were not bound to sell, and that after they had, the price was still theirs. When Barnabas gave all his property, such exceptional generosity was chronicled. There are examples of houses held privately in Jerusalem, !2:12; 21:16. St James, in his Epistle, reveals the existence of rich and poor there. The community of goods does not seem to have been very successful, 6:1, and other churches had continually to send alms, voluntarily, ‘each man according to his ability’, to Jerusalem, 11:29.”
Scripture tells us we each have a calling. I never said anything against the above. However, our most basic calling is to love one another and care for the poor, sick, and elderly. St. Paul took collections to help communities that were without from communities that were abundant, “that there might be equality”. He never expected the world to understand or do this, but He did expect it of the church.

The last part of the above is way off track. It is not that the community of goods was not working, it was that they were heavily persecuted and could not earn money to live.
 
Please drop the talking points. They get boring after reading them time after time.

Your misplaced notions of “the common good” will be the “common ruin” of us all.

A society must be based upon charity and fraternity, else it is bound to fail. And we are seeing that now both in The US and in the EU.

As St John Chrysostom said, Material Justice cannot be accomplished by compulsion, a change in heart will not follow. The only way to achieve true justice is to change people’s hearts first – and then they will joyfully share their wealth.

Oh, wait, he didn’t think much like Jesus, either, did he?
Sorry that voicing concern for the least in our society is boring to you. What I find boring is your sarcasm.

We are seeing the breakdown of charity and fraternity in our polarized political discourse for sure.

When a pluralistic societies middle class has its basic needs met, they tend to be more generous towards others. What we see now in the middle class is fear that they will lose that and be worse off in the future. This is played upon by fear mongering politicians and blamed on the lower class instead of on the mismanagement of the upper class. Everyone is trying to get all they can get before it gets worse.

In someplaces in the EU, workers won benefits that were not sustainable because they went too far. Universal healthcare though is not one of them.

Your quote of St. John Chrysostom is misapplied. We are not talking about forced socialism but fulfilling a promise and caring for all our citizens. We as the state can elect those to make certain it is fair, but taxes will always be necessary. Our government does not need reforming, the men who abuse it do.

Our country was founded on the blood and treasure of all patriots. Many a poor man gave his life for his ideal as well as a rich man. We forget that there were many more of the lower class in the battle than of the upper class. Trickle down would not have made sense. I hope that talented and intelligent people prosper in our country. In that prosperity, though, we cannot leave people behind.
 
Well sure, if it works for monks, it should work for the United States. Of course, we might have to emulate monks by taking vows of poverty and obedience. (The State would not insist on chastity.)
I sure hope that not all of your 14,000+ posts have been as ridiculous as this one.
 
The evils of socialism are expressed in the forced redistribution which the Welfare State embodies. Yes, people, are greedy and selfish and that is precisely why society is beset by so many problems, and the bureaucracy of the State is no solution, only the practice of free enterprise by those possessing the virtues of prudence, justice, fortitude and temperance will help society.
Without a watchdog, vast amounts of money has lead to corruption and suffering by those least able to bear it. Free enterprise in a pluralistic society must have restraints. We saw it happen in the financial markets. When it was deregulated it fell because of the weight of greed.

There must be balance. A sense of entitlement is not only a sin of the poor receiving benefits but also of the welathy and powerful surrounded by all the temptation of what money and power offers. The middle class looking into the window of wealth are easily swayed by fear of not being able to achieve wealth. The fear mongering groups use this to their advantage and divert the blame for societies ills.

Our world is changing and the wealth of countries is being redistributed. Since we are at the top we feel it the most. Instead of blaming social programs, falsely calling them socialism, as the reason for our decline; we need all of citizens to pull together to reinvent our place in the world. If our ship is sinking, it will do no good for those topside to blame those below decks rowing. Sure we can save money by cutting their rations but the ship will eventually stop.

It really isn’t a lack of money but how the money is used. Our free market system can be short sighted. I come from a railroad community. While the railroads were run by railroad people it prospered so much that other companies bought them up. They depleted the profits by not reinvesting in infrastructure but using it to fund other ventures. The infrastructure went into disarray and the railroads went into decline due to corporate mismanagement. My community suffered greatly as hundreds of jobs were lost.

We see this also in other industries such as the auto industry and housing market. Yet, while free marketeers are complaining they are also enjoying the income from society to bail them out. They don’t see that as socialism but it is not the free market either. What they are calling socialism is not the socialsim of the evil empires but a society providing for one another. The wealthy and powerful created a disaster and had to rely on everyone else for help. The elderly and those denied health insurance paid their way for years and now are disparaged as being free-loaders when all they want is equal access to a basic right.

Like the government of the church which acts as a watchdog of morals; the free market system needs a leash, government of the people to act in everyone’s best interest. All the references to church writings on socialism does not apply because what is needed is being called socialism is not socialism but basic, fundamental equal rights.
Fr James V Schall, S.J., in Does Catholicism Still Exist?, Alba House 1994, p 184-185:
“Since the Catholic Church wants poverty confronted, since She wants this confrontation to be done justly and with the interest and cooperation of the workers and the poor, She has had to acknowledge, as did the socialist systems themselves, that there are certain ways that must be employed if mankind is to meet its economic problems. These ways can be known and imitated, but they must include a juridical system, profit, enterprise, knowledge, exchange, a market, voluntary organisations, a relatively independent economy, private property, and respect for work and excellence.”

That’s why we have laws to seek and punish those who steal, cheat, swindle, and worse crimes. That’s why we have the Catholic Church to guide us – She who invented charity in the West. It’s time to face reality.

No wealth can be created until it is produced – that’s why the Late Scholastic system works so well to enable everyone to produce some wealth and to do with it as they choose through free-will. Economic laws are based on the principles of human action – of cause and effect involving God-given reason.
 
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