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Ok, here is how salvation works. All you have to do to be saved is to do whatever God tells you to do, no matter whatever that is. That’s it. The reason Jesus is important is because He is the Son of God. So if you listen to Him you are actually listening to God. If you don’t listen to Him, you are really trying to figure things out for yourself without looking for God’s help. So that is pretty much it. Some people never hear about Jesus. So well they just have to make due with what they have. They can still be saved, they just don’t have the benefit of knowing about Jesus. God gave each of us reason, so we can figure things out for ourselves if we really try hard, but it is difficult without Jesus’ help. So that is my position. If you don’t listen to God at all, well that is another matter. I don’t know what to tell you there. If Jesus tells you not to do something and you do it anyways, well, I can’t really help you. If Jesus tells you to do something and you don’t do it, well, why should God force you to do it if you don’t want to. But just know that if you do that, you are basically saying, Screw God, and just doing whatever the hell you want, thinking you know better than the Creator who made you. If you don’t trust Him or you are not sure that Jesus is actually the Son of God and trustworthy, well, you can’t really force yourself to believe something. You honestly have to have a good reason to believe it before you will ever do so. And sometimes only the Holy Spirit is going to really help you understand. All you can do is to try to understand, and maybe you will and maybe you won’t, but as long as you are really really trying, I think you will succeed, and maybe you won’t, but God will love you for trying to please Him. If you try to please God, and you are truthful about what you know and don’t know, God will spend some time with you. I’m sure He’ll bring you to Heaven if that is what you do.
I basically derive this idea from what Mary says to the servants at the Wedding of Cana. She says “Do whatever He tells you.”
Joshua
Ok, here is how salvation works. All you have to do to be saved is to do whatever God tells you to do, no matter whatever that is. That’s it. The reason Jesus is important is because He is the Son of God. So if you listen to Him you are actually listening to God. If you don’t listen to Him, you are really trying to figure things out for yourself without looking for God’s help. So that is pretty much it. Some people never hear about Jesus. So well they just have to make due with what they have. They can still be saved, they just don’t have the benefit of knowing about Jesus. God gave each of us reason, so we can figure things out for ourselves if we really try hard, but it is difficult without Jesus’ help. So that is my position. If you don’t listen to God at all, well that is another matter. I don’t know what to tell you there. If Jesus tells you not to do something and you do it anyways, well, I can’t really help you. If Jesus tells you to do something and you don’t do it, well, why should God force you to do it if you don’t want to. But just know that if you do that, you are basically saying, Screw God, and just doing whatever the hell you want, thinking you know better than the Creator who made you. If you don’t trust Him or you are not sure that Jesus is actually the Son of God and trustworthy, well, you can’t really force yourself to believe something. You honestly have to have a good reason to believe it before you will ever do so. And sometimes only the Holy Spirit is going to really help you understand. All you can do is to try to understand, and maybe you will and maybe you won’t, but as long as you are really really trying, I think you will succeed, and maybe you won’t, but God will love you for trying to please Him. If you try to please God, and you are truthful about what you know and don’t know, God will spend some time with you. I’m sure He’ll bring you to Heaven if that is what you do.
I basically derive this idea from what Mary says to the servants at the Wedding of Cana. She says “Do whatever He tells you.”
Joshua