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dennisknapp
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There is no Holy Spirit to pray to? Where is this found in any of the writings of the Fathers, Creeds or Councils?The Holy Spirit or Advocate is that faculty which connects Jesus and God or temporal life and Eternal Life together and teaches where they mesh and seperate.
The great Divine Will which accepts two types of Christians within the Apostolic community permits the lower interpretation until such time as the Spirit actually becomes manifest as Jesus says it does,not through any decision a person makes but as a gift of God.
The indulgence which facilitates prayer “to the Holy Spirit” is superseded by conversion in the Spirit ,there is no Holy Spirit to pray to because being born in the Spirit it is impossible to become unborn no more than it is possible to become physically unborn.
"111 But since Sacred Scripture is inspired, there is another and no less important principle of correct interpretation, without which Scripture would remain a dead letter. "Sacred Scripture must be read and interpreted in the light of the same Spirit by whom it was written."77 "
vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p1s1c2a3.htm#III
The contemporary version of the Alogi certainly are present and this does present a nightmare.The heritage of contemplative Christianity no longer has place within a Church which is increasingly identified by the rules of the Cathecism which must suit those who have a legalistic bent,at least from the indications I have witnessed in this forum.
Attempting to make the Cathechism important and finding loopholes is about as far removed from Christ and Christianity as possible and where contradictions exists,apply a bit of common sense instead of being rabid.
Those who have remained silent and thought it better to see the sacred Christian writings cut to pieces for the cathechismal purposes should be ashamed of themselves.
The document you quoted also says,
“113 2. Read the Scripture within “the living Tradition of the whole Church”. According to a saying of the Fathers, Sacred Scripture is written principally in the Church’s heart rather than in documents and records, for the Church carries in her Tradition the living memorial of God’s Word, and it is the Holy Spirit **who **gives her the spiritual interpretation of the Scripture (”. . . according to the spiritual meaning which the Spirit grants to the Church"81)."
Please try a be consistant.
BTW, how do you come by what you believe? Its obviously not through Catholic sources. Does God speak to you directly?
Peace