Here's a look at a Muslim sense of History

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I noticed on this board that there is a theme that our Muslim brothers’ and sisters’ wish us to believe. It’s is the belief that the spread of Islam was done in much the same manner as there American equivalent, the Mormons do today, by going 2 by 2, door to door, knocking and being invited in to gain new converts. However, we Westerners, being rogues, actually had the audacity to attack peaceful Muslims in far off Jerusalem.
Ah, but it helps to know a bit of history to put truth in perspective. Let’s just take a small slice of the West’s experience with Muhammad’s followers in just the area around Rome between the years 813 to 882. Naturally, there is no need to include Spain, France, the rest of Italy, the Balkans, Sardinia, and the other islands, or even as far off as Northern Italy or the Alps to get an idea of the bigger picture of kindly Muslim activity in the years from 632AD until the time of the First Crusade in 1095 AD.
In 813 AD, the port of Rome, Civitavecchia was sacked. In 846, the Basilicas of Sts Peter and Paul, and the Lateran were desecrated and plundered. St. Peter’s doors were stripped on their silver and the altar above ST. Peter’s tomb smashed. Well, what’s the use of a conquest if you can’t plunder and pillage! The Saracen (Muslim troops) felt at home and when the Saracen fleet attempted another pirate raid on Rome, they met with defeat and the Muslim survivors were forced to build the Leonine Wall around the Vatican , which can still be seen by tourist today. Again in 882 Pope John VIII defeated a Muslim advance on Rome at Fundi where he captured 18 ships and liberated over 600 Christian captive. Well, I don’t think that I need to go into any other details of European history for I think that this one small slice suffices to remind us of Muslim forgetfulness.
I will just add two souvenirs from my time in the Philippines that relate to the peaceful intentions of the Muslims there. These two are: the term Amok describes the wanton killing of Christians by fanatical Muslims, and the Colt 45 which was used by the U.S. army to stop them where nothing else could.
Well, forgive me for this bit of history, but I felt it relevant to the truth of history.
 
Muhammad led 27 military campaigns against innocent
villages and caravans & planned 38 others

“I am the prophet that laughs when killing my enemies.” (Hadith)

Christians & Jewish martyrs say; “I will die for what I believe”.
A Muslim martyr says; "you will die for what I believe
 
I don’t believe hadiths are part of the Qu’ran? I think they are separate thoughts of Muhammed, but many follow the hadiths who are following Islam.

I appreciate this historical thread. Thanks for posting – it’s interesting, albeit in a sad way.
 
the question at hand was Islam founded as a Religion of peace for all?

If you read Mohammed and his several inheritors of Islam can you honestly tell me that there is equality and a sense of choice?

Can I decide to eat at a time of fasting in an Islamic State even though I am not Muslim? Or will I be put in Jail?

Can I own land?

Can I pay taxes (same rate as a Muslim in an Islamic State?

If Christian/Judeo values in the United Staes or any other country were followed as these countries and states Muslims would unite and call it Appartied.

Remember no matter how many prayers or how strongly your belief and acceptance there is no 21 virgins except martydom in Islam.
 
the question at hand was Islam founded as a Religion of peace for all?

If you read Mohammed and his several inheritors of Islam can you honestly tell me that there is equality and a sense of choice?

Can I decide to eat at a time of fasting in an Islamic State even though I am not Muslim? Or will I be put in Jail?
In my country, you better be careful and look around. You will not go to jail, though. The food vendor are usually afraid to do business openly anyway. Except in the mals or star-rated restaurants, where the owner can invite the soldiers or policemen to protect them.
 
I don’t believe hadiths are part of the Qu’ran?
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You are right, Hadith are not part of the Quran - the first and primary source of guidance in Islam. Hadith were collected after two hundred to three hundred years after Muhammad, and are only to be accepted if not against Quran or interpreted in a way that these conform Quran, if not these are to rejected.

Thanks
 
I noticed on this board that there is a theme that our Muslim brothers’ and sisters’ wish us to believe.

Muslims are not our brothers or sisters.
 
I saw a video years ago, of an Islamic preacher who illustrated the condemning Islamic view of those who believe God has a Son.
They believe that such an idea is an insult to God (Allah). He even went so far as to say that it is an insulting “animalistic” sexual thing to suggest that God had a Son.
And, when Christians find this out, it is so unbelievable.
Because, you know, that we believe that it was a miracle, that Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit, and not of an “animalistic” sexual nature.
So, how many Muslims still believe that Christians believe that?
This is going to take a lot of patience and Bible doctrine to lay it all out plainly before Muslims.
I hope that this makes an impression, to say the least.

And, it should be noted that the Mormons believe (since 1827) that God the Father is a man, who came down to have sex with Mary for the conception of Jesus.
The Mormon Church is a cult, indeed.
Maybe, they are partly to blame.
 
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