>>heresy excommunication<<

[thinkthaughts]

hi so if I committed heresy and was automatically excommunicated does receiving absolution in Confession eliminate the excommunication or would I first have to get the excommunication lifted before receiving absolution?

this doesn’t apply to me just curious because I think for abortion here in USA the absolution would eliminate the excommunication so wanted to see if heresy was the same

 

[Gorgias]

hi so if I committed heresy and was automatically excommunicated does receiving absolution in Confession eliminate the excommunication or would I first have to get the excommunication lifted before receiving absolution?

The excommunication for heresy is ‘latae sentatiae’ (that is, it does not require a formal declaration by the Church), but that does not – strictly speaking – mean that it is ‘automatic’. There are certain conditions that must apply before the excommunication takes place. Therefore, we cannot presume that excommunication automatically takes place for all who profess heretical beliefs.

I think for abortion here in USA the absolution would eliminate the excommunication so wanted to see if heresy was the same

Bishops (or, more precisely, the ‘local ordinary’ or those equivalent to him) have the ability to lift excommunications. In some dioceses, bishops delegate this ability to priest confessors who are incardinated in his diocese. Without this ability, it would be necessary for a priest to defer absolution until he is able to go through the process of having the bishop lift the excommunication (at which time, the priest confessor would be able to absolve the penitent). With this delegation, a priest confessor is able to lift the penalty and provide absolution right there in the confessional.

Hope this helps…!

 

[PaulfromIowa]

This is something to discuss with one’s pastor or confessor.

 

[Gorgias]

This is something to discuss with one’s pastor or confessor.

Agreed. But, think says that this is just a question s/he’s curious about…

 

[Vico]

hi so if I committed heresy and was automatically excommunicated does receiving absolution in Confession eliminate the excommunication or would I first have to get the excommunication lifted before receiving absolution?

this doesn’t apply to me just curious because I think for abortion here in USA the absolution would eliminate the excommunication so wanted to see if heresy was the same

Absolution and lifting a penalty are different things.

There are two cases for the Latin Canon law for latae sententiae excommunication: one without a declaration and one with. Also the eastern Catholic law has no latae sententiae, rather it has reserved sins. In all cases is a matter for the ordinary (or Hierarch) to deal with, but sometimes is delegated to a priest. For the Latin Catholics, there is also a way that absolution can be given by a priest if a month will pass before seeing the ordinary to remove the excommunication.

See CIC ******Canon Law 1355 and 1357. ******It the USA the ordinary may have delegated the lifting of excommunication for abortion to the priests that have faculties to hear confession.

Also see:

Normae de gravioribus delictis
catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=9353Substantive Norms

Art. 2

§ 1. The delicts against the faith referred to in art. 1 are heresy, apostasy and schism according to the norm of can. 751 [6] and 1364 [7] of the Code of Canon Law, and can. 1436[8] and 1437[9] of the Code of Canons of the Eastern Churches.

§ 2. In the abovementioned cases referred to in § 1, it pertains to the Ordinary or Hierarch to remit, by norm of law, if it be the case, the latae sententiae excommunication and likewise to undertake a judicial trial in the first instance or issue an extrajudicial decree, with due regard for the right of appeal or of recourse to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.