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hi!!! im new to this forum! I apologize for my english, Im italian and dont speak english very well…I m 23 yesr old and i study economics:)

May I ask you a question? while i was looking for some herbs that promote a little sedation (for a better sleep) like valerian and passiflora, I also saw the leonotis leonurus (also known as wild dagga) and i ordered it too. I know it can gives you a mild sedation and pleasant feeling in fact it is often sold as a cannabis alternative. (even if it is not comparable, the cannabis has much stronger psycho-phisical effects)

I want to be honest: if it is safe, Im going (if i like it) to use it sometimes just to relax…is this ok…? is it a mortal sin…?
thanks a lot!!!
 
Check with your doctor, or with the pharmacist who is dispensing it.

In general, I would consider it a bad idea to use painkillers as recreational drugs - who knows what side effects you might experience - they might not be all that pleasant.
 
If it’s been reccomended by your doctor and isn’t illegal then no it’s not a sin.
 
thanks for the answers! well, it is neither legal nor illegal, there are no rules about i think.

I didnt ask anything to my doctor, I just bought some herbs at a herbalist’s shop and on on-line shops. I found an abstract which shows the adverse effects of a medium/high chronic dosage, high dosage and super high dosage in rats and Im going to buy the full text in order to get some more infos. For now I know that at high dosages it promotes sides but Im going to use it at a very low dosage, not at all comparable to the study dosage, and more, if I will notice any kind of psychic dependence I would stop to use it…Im already have tobacco smoking habit and dont want another vice…

thanks!
 
forum rules forbid giving medical advice, that should come from your doctor. So many herbs interact with prescription and OTC drugs that needs to be checked out as well. When I can’t sleep it is usually a sign I need more time in prayer, that works for me.
 
I would be very cautious taking any kind of herbs, especially if you take an prescription medication. A nice cup of chamomile tea can be very soothing and unless you’re allergic to it, probably perfectly safe.
 
Hello and welcome. 🙂

I take some plant extracts. Passion flower, lemon balm, and kava. They produce a nice relaxation feeling and help me fall asleep. There is no sin in taking things like these I mentioned. Be sure they come of a good source. I do not order them online and I discourage you from doing so. I go to a organic whole food store that only sells legal, but not regulated herbal extracts. You should know Cannabis alternatives can be dangerous. You never really know what it contains and some times companies make these things to market to young people who want to get high. In America we had a “herbal substance” called K2. Now state governments are banning it because they find that it is more dangerous than cannabis and contains some unknown chemicals. It seemed harmless, but the truth is people use it to get high.

I suggest going to an organic store like I do, and asking them if they have any natural sedatives.

I hope my post is not too difficult to read. Translating languages can be hard to do. 🙂
 
thanks again for the answers!

dont worry I ve understood everything! you’ re right, that’s the best thing I could do, but here in Italy they dont sell leonotis leonurus and many other plants like kawa…the source I bought it from should be ok…it’s from UK…

and if I’ll like this herb (about the good feeling peoples talk about) and if it is safe, could I use it sometimes just to relax feel good? i dont wanna get high, lough like a crazy ecc (like MJ does), i just want it to relax me, and why not, give me a little euphoria (if is it true, because some peoples says it is very mild)…if i notice dependance i stop it…

I dont want medical advices, but a moral judge on the question…anyway I apologize…

(a little question, how is my english? is it readable?😊🙂 )
 
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thanks again for the answers!

dont worry I ve understood everything! you’ re right, that’s the best thing I could do, but here in Italy they dont sell leonotis leonurus and many other plants like kawa…the source I bought it from should be ok…it’s from UK…

and if I’ll like this herb (about the good feeling peoples talk about) and if it is safe, could I use it sometimes just to relax feel good? i dont wanna get high, lough like a crazy ecc (like MJ does), i just want it to relax me, and why not, give me a little euphoria (if is it true, because some peoples says it is very mild)…if i notice dependance i stop it…

I dont want medical advices, but a moral judge on the question…anyway I apologize…

(a little question, how is my english? is it readable?😊🙂 )
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Well, that is pretty much what cannabis does. It gives a relaxation feeling and some euphoria. I do not see a lot of people laugh crazy on it.

This place should not be the official moral judge for things like this.It would not be good for you to use this product and hurt yourself because you thought we are saying it is okay to use it. I recommend discussing effects of the product (euphoria, relaxation) and your intentions for using with a local Priest too.

Your English is fine. 🙂
 
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if i notice dependance i stop it…
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By the time you notice that something is addictive (if it is addictive), there will have already been damage done - and it might be a lot harder to stop than to start.

It’s better to ask in advance whether it might be addictive - ask a doctor or pharmacist. And never buy medicine over the Internet - you have no idea who the seller is, or what they are sending you - anything you put in your mouth, you should buy from your neighborhood stores. 🙂
 
to jmcrae: you’re right but in italy they dont sell many herbs like kava, w.dagga etc…anyway u’re right

to stringbeanduck: ok but the cannabis mental and psysical relaxation and euphoria are elevated…I know because I ve smoked hashish for years and often drank every alcoholic beverages…then i stopped everything (thank to God!) and begun to pray and go to the church.

I ve already asked to my priest…he told me that if it doesnt hurt it’s not a sin…altough it is not recommended. That’s why Im going to buy the full text of the leonotis leonurus acqueous extracts safety evaluation in rats…

thanks everybodies for the answers, i really like this forum!!
 
I have purchased the full text. this herb is NOT safe. I will not use it.

thanks all for the advices!!
 
guido777 said:
thanks again for the answers!

dont worry I ve understood everything! you’ re right, that’s the best thing I could do, but here in Italy they dont sell leonotis leonurus and many other plants like kawa…the source I bought it from should be ok…it’s from UK…

and if I’ll like this herb (about the good feeling peoples talk about) and if it is safe, could I use it sometimes just to relax feel good? i dont wanna get high, lough like a crazy ecc (like MJ does), i just want it to relax me, and why not, give me a little euphoria (if is it true, because some peoples says it is very mild)…if i notice dependance i stop it…

I dont want medical advices, but a moral judge on the question…anyway I apologize…

(a little question, how is my english? is it readable?😊🙂 )
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So what you are saying is that you want to buy drugs to get high. Very stupid! Very dangerous! First steps on the road to destruction.
 
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