Hi there...some questions

[Truth_Seeking]

I agree to an extent. I see sexuality as a spectrum…it can change over time. I may have rushed it but my friends really don’t care so in a way it’s no big deal. I spent 5 months in a dark place thinking about it. I’m happy knowing I don’t have to bottle things up anymore and I can be who I am. I still have challenges but now it’s easier. I’ve really thought this through.

Jesus created them male and female
and even designed the genitalia for each other.

You will not have a great success telling Jesus what you think,
when you stand before him at the last judgement

 

[MrWizard]

I agree that some people can be helpful

However faith comes by hearing and hearing comes by the word of God in the scriptures

But I come back to an old argument I have a lot…scripture was written by man. All of it. Sure some things in there I agree with but a lot I don’t. It also has changed the effect due to the times.

 

[Truth_Seeking]

But I come back to an old argument I have a lot…scripture was written by man. All of it. Sure some things in there I agree with but a lot I don’t. It also has changed the effect due to the times.

Scripture is inspired by the Holy Spirit

Tell Jesus, the just judge, that you do not agree
that you know better
and simply do not care much for what he revealed in the scriptures to those He loves

 

[MrWizard]

Scripture is inspired by the Holy Spirit

Tell Jesus, the just judge, that you do not agree
that you know better
and simply do not care much for what he revealed in the scriptures to those He loves

Not saying I know better…I’m not perfect and no one is. Plus I’m just using my intellect and will…both things God gave us right?

 

[Truth_Seeking]

Not saying I know better…I’m not perfect and no one is. Plus I’m just using my intellect and will…both things God gave us right?

Both your intellect and will should be submitted to God.

I am not concerned about you being perfect,
but sexual immorality is totally repugnant to God

 

[MrWizard]

Jesus created them male and female
and even designed the genitalia for each other.

You will not have a great success telling Jesus what you think,
when you stand before him at the last judgement

But I did not choose to be this way…I did not wake up and choose this. If it was a choice I’d choose to be normal in a heart beat. Unfortunately I feel like you’re saying Jesus is going to damn me to hell for having a different point of view…I’m just trying not to be ignorant.

 

[Truth_Seeking]

But I did not choose to be this way…I did not wake up and choose this. If it was a choice I’d choose to be normal in a heart beat. Unfortunately I feel like you’re saying Jesus is going to damn me to hell for having a different point of view…I’m just trying not to be ignorant.

Hear what you said: ‘If it was a choice I’d choose to be normal in a heart beat’.

That is exactly what Jesus wants for you, the desires of your heart

Get close to Him and He WILL deliver you from evil!

 

[MrWizard]

Hear what you said: ‘If it was a choice I’d choose to be normal in a heart beat’.

That is exactly what Jesus wants for you, the desires of your heart

Get close to Him and He WILL deliver you from evil!

Attempting to cure oneself from homosexual feelings causes more harm than good…seriously watch Prayers For Bobby,perfect example.

Although it’s a struggle I’m starting to become comfortable with who I am. I like girls and guys…I’m still me though, I play video games, I love music, I love my friends, I play sports…I’m just me…and I believe God made me unique like he made everybody else unique. I just really want to know why it’s so wrong. I think it boils down to ignorance

 

[Truth_Seeking]

Attempting to cure oneself from homosexual feelings causes more harm than good…seriously watch Prayers For Bobby,perfect example.

Although it’s a struggle I’m starting to become comfortable with who I am. I like girls and guys…I’m still me though, I play video games, I love music, I love my friends, I play sports…I’m just me…and I believe God made me unique like he made everybody else unique. I just really want to know why it’s so wrong. I think it boils down to ignorance

Your Creator did not plan this for you.

You can be comfortable with this like a pig in …it
but why would you want this when God wants to shower blessings on you.

Do you realise that He died on the cross for your homosexuality?
That you need to consider yourself DEAD to homosexuality/
That you should not give in to your feelings,
but that you should be guided the Holy Spirit
and by what is written in the scriptures

 

[MrWizard]

Your Creator did not plan this for you.

You can be comfortable with this like a pig in …it
but why would you want this when God wants to shower blessings on you.

Do you realise that He died on the cross for your homosexuality?
That you need to consider yourself DEAD to homosexuality/
That you should not give in to your feelings,
but that you should be guided the Holy Spirit
and by what is written in the scriptures

Ok but homosexuality itself is not a sin…mainly because it’s not a choice…the Church is opposed to the acts themselves…that is my disagreement.

 

[Truth_Seeking]

Ok but homosexuality itself is not a sin…mainly because it’s not a choice…the Church is opposed to the acts themselves…that is my disagreement.

You are able to consider yourself DEAD TO SIN/homosexuality
but it seems that you do not want to do this

That is your CHOICE!

 

[MrWizard]

You are able to consider yourself DEAD TO SIN/homosexuality
but it seems that you do not want to do this

That is your CHOICE!

I’m human, I’m going to sin, I’m not perfect. I’m assuming you don’t know anybody who is bisexual, or homosexual. Usually peoples opinions change when they know someone who is bisexual or homosexual.

Also you seem to ignore the fact I still like girls.

 

[Truth_Seeking]

I’m human, I’m going to sin, I’m not perfect. I’m assuming you don’t know anybody who is bisexual, or homosexual. Usually peoples opinions change when they know someone who is bisexual or homosexual.

Also you seem to ignore the fact I still like girls.

Paul wrote to CONSIDER YOURSELF DEAD TO SIN

If you ignore what God has revealed in the scriptures
then there is little hope that you are going to overcome

 

[Truth_Seeking]

Paul wrote to CONSIDER YOURSELF DEAD TO SIN

If you ignore what God has revealed in the scriptures
then there is little hope that you are going to overcome

Either you believe in Jesus atoning sacrifice on the cross
that you are a new creation in Christ and Christ is in you
and that you should consider yourself DEAD to sin
as you have died with Christ in baptism

or you do not
and then you will have the consequences
of ignoring the revelation in the word of God

 

[MrWizard]

Paul wrote to CONSIDER YOURSELF DEAD TO SIN

If you ignore what God has revealed in the scriptures
then there is little hope that you are going to overcome

So that means for me to stop looking at guys and focus on girls? That’s like telling someone who likes chocolate and vanilla ice cream to stop eating one.

The Church does NOT consider any other form of sexuality a sin…it’s the actions that are considered the sins…I’m saying they’re not. Sexual sins are sexual sins but in my opinion if two people love each other then it’s not a sin (heterosexual couples would have it easier because they can marry).

I’m just trying to see why the discrimination…infertile heterosexuals can get married and have sex and it’s not a sin but homosexuals cant? See what I’m saying…an infertile heterosexual couple is no different than a homosexual couple.

 

[Truth_Seeking]

So that means for me to stop looking at guys and focus on girls? That’s like telling someone who likes chocolate and vanilla ice cream to stop eating one.

The Church does NOT consider any other form of sexuality a sin…it’s the actions that are considered the sins…I’m saying they’re not. Sexual sins are sexual sins but in my opinion if two people love each other then it’s not a sin (heterosexual couples would have it easier because they can marry).

I’m just trying to see why the discrimination…infertile heterosexuals can get married and have sex and it’s not a sin but homosexuals cant? See what I’m saying…an infertile heterosexual couple is no different than a homosexual couple.

Entertaining sin in your mind is a sin.
and if eating chocolate is a problem then you simply do not eat it!

 

[MrWizard]

Entertaining sin in your mind is a sin.
and if eating chocolate is a problem then you simply do not eat it!

This has become more of an argument of sexual sins than what I intended.

Things not of sexual nature but of just showing affection in a homosexual relationship (i.e kissing, hugging ec)…sins or not?

 

[virbots]

Hi MrWizard-

Thanks for posting. Please check out couragerc.net
Courage is a Roman Catholic Apostolate for people with same sex attractions.

 

[Truth_Seeking]

This has become more of an argument of sexual sins than what I intended.

Things not of sexual nature but of just showing affection in a homosexual relationship (i.e kissing, hugging ec)…sins or not?

Why would you want to kiss another male,
when you consider yourself DEAD to the sin of homosexuality

unless you simply do not believe in Jesus’ atoning sacrifice on the cross
or you consider your LUST more important?

 

[Truth_Seeking]

Hi MrWizard-

Thanks for posting. Please check out couragerc.net
Courage is a Roman Catholic Apostolate for people with same sex attractions.

Quote ‘By developing an interior life of chastity,’

Any suggestions?