High Mass in English?

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I understand that High Mass generally refers to the Latin Mass done as it has been throughout history, but was wondering if all Novus Ordo Masses are unadorned without any incense, chanting, kneeling, etc.
 
No they are not all unadorned…however, whether they are or not, they are all reverent Masses.
 
High Mass is usually sung and the Creed and all the other parts that are optional on a weekday are included. Sometime incense isn’t used but that really depends upon how many altarservers show up so there can be servers first for the procession crucifix, candles etc.
 
How can you find out which Masses in Novus Ordo Parishes are more traditional? I’m mainly concerned about contemporary pop/rock music instead of hymns or chants, and complete disregard for the Tradition of the Church.
 
That’s a great possibility. I’m looking to join the Catholic Church, I’m just afraid from videos I’ve seen of many abuses of the Novus Ordo Mass. (ie Clown Mass, congregational dancing, Charismaticism, irreverent music, etc.)

I’m just trying to find a Catholic Church that cares about its Sacred History and hasn’t bowed to the whims of Protestant and secular opinions.

Especially because that is why I’m trying to leave the Protestant church system. (it has no Sacred Tradition worth carrying on, and no Apostolic authority)
 
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First, I presume you’re aware that “Novus Ordo” is considered a derogatory term by many. It’s usually just called ordinary form (OF) Mass.

Second, the OF Mass is approved by the Vatican and is in keeping with Church tradition.

Third, the way to find a parish with Mass music you like and with “smells and bells” etc is simply to attend different parishes till you find one you like.
 
Thank you: this is the first time that I’d heard that NO was considered derogatory. Sorry about that. There are just so many Protestant and Traditionalist Catholic websites and videos that made it appear, to my Protestant mind, that the Catholic Church is worse off regarding disregarding Tradition than even the Protestants.
 
Thank you so much, that gives me so much hope that they do exist in my area as well! 🙂
 
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How can you find out which Masses in Novus Ordo Parishes are more traditional? I’m mainly concerned about contemporary pop/rock music instead of hymns or chants, and complete disregard for the Tradition of the Church.
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By word of mouth.

It truly depends on the pastor of the parish. So when there’s a new pastor, it can change from being more contemporary to more traditional or visa versa.

Another way is to seek a parish that’s administered by priests from more “traditional” religious congregations, institutes or fraternities like the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter (FSSP) and the Institute of the Incarnate Word (IVE). The Novus Ordo Masses celebrated at these churches tend to be more traditional with more traditional music, more chanting and a greater use of incense.
 
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How can you find this out? Is it usually listed on their websites?
 
Priests from religious orders will usually have the abbreviation/initials of their religious order after their printed name. So the name of a priest that belongs to the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter (FSSP) would commonly be listed as “Fr. John Smith, FSSB” or a priest that belongs to the Institute of the Incarnate Word would be listed as “Fr. Robert Smith, IVE”.
 
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For instance, what would you make of this: https://ststephenchatt.org/
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I checked out their website. There is nothing that indicates what kind of music they use during their Ordinary Form Masses, however, the fact that they are subscribed to FORMED.org and are pushing it on the front page of their website is a very good thing.

Also, Chattanooga is in the Diocese of Knoxville, who has a very good bishop and a beautiful new Cathedral.
 
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I understand that High Mass generally refers to the Latin Mass done as it has been throughout history, but was wondering if all Novus Ordo Masses are unadorned without any incense, chanting, kneeling, etc.
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I’ve seen very reverently done OF masses, one all in English with singing and a choir, and another with the priest facing liturgical east, kneeling at an altar rail for communion, with the entrance antiphon, gregorian chant, and Latin Gloria/Sanctus/Mystery of Faith/Agnus Dei used. Incense used in both.
 
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How can you find this out? Is it usually listed on their websites?
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If you are in Chattanooga, I would recommend checking this parish out. https://www.stspeterandpaulbasilica.com/

They offer the Latin mass and apparently very reverent and beautiful Ordinary Form masses too.

Plus, the church is a Minor Basilica.
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I have been here. Actually, it was the second mass I was referencing in my post. They do vary in the level of celebration depending upon which mass time you go to, but their 11:30 is their principal mass. A sung mass, has Gregorian chant, a schola, communion at an altar rail, the priest celebrating the eucharistic liturgy facing liturgical east, multiple portions in Latin. Lots of incense. And this is the Ordinary Form. They do the EF once a month.

If you go at other times they might have a recited mass, or a “simple sung” mass all in English facing the people and with a choir, not a schola. But the 11:30 is as I described.
 
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