High school is a horrorifically evil place

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Keep up the confessions and continue to pray often.

Be the light of Christ among your peers, but realize that God might be calling you only to plant the seeds that will grow into a deeper faith after being watered and nurtured years later by someone else. By your example, some of your classmates may one day come to accept the truth of Christianity, but do not expect to ever see the fruits of your labors, prayers, or examples while you’re in high school.

Find other with whom you can share your faith and put the “Catholic” back into that particular high school!
 
Generic_Man said:
There is a pro life club in my school. I’m in the Ski Club (skiing is awesome fun). I’ll see if I can be in two clubs. Hopefully the PL club doesn’t have meetings on Friday.

As for finding a like mided group of students, I wouldn’t hold my brreath on it. Not only would they be extremely rare, but I doubtedly find them. I’m an extremely introverted person, so not only would I not find them, but I doubt I’d be able to form close frinedships with them, as I can’t really form close friendships at all. This may sound like a burden, but it’s actually a blessing- I have no inclination to join my peers and their idiocy.

Also, I think I may have to retract the statement about being disliked by some people for my beliefs. The people who do dislike me, I think now, do so for different reasons. I’m pretty sure everyone just doesn’t listen or care.

Adoration, like Confession is only on Wednesday. But I’ve started today to go to the chapel during lunch period annd pray a decade of the Rosary.
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Beautiful. I think this is what you need. 👍
 
Generic_Man said:
NOTE: I know this doesn’t fit the board all to well, but it’s the closest fit I could find.

I go to a very small, Catholic high school. Would you think that this means that it is freed from the evils of all the other high schools? Sadly that is wrong.

The most obvious thing is that no one cares about chastity. Boys think of the girls like pinup posters or sex toys, the girls dress like prostitutes (on no uniform days of course), they make lewd jokes, openly admit to masturbating, grind, participate in hook ups, and either want to fornicate or already have.

Swearing is also commonplace. I must hear dozens of curses every day.

I go to a public school and I get that big lump in my throat when people make jokes about things that are important to me. I get scared and nervous when people talk about things like what guy fingered what girl or who gave who head to who. It’s hard especially when you don’t like talking in public. I admire you for doing what you are doing. I should do more than I am. Keep up the good work because it will produce fruit one day. The Lord does like to work in mysterious ways.
And telling them that it’s wrong is like trying to slam a revovling door. I always say that they shouldn’t insult people, shouldn’t talk about like girls like that, shouldn’t swear, but it all fallls on deaf ears. It’s actually gotten me to become fairly disliked by some people.

It really makes me hate lunch hour. Nothing to do but eat and listen to whatever garnage the people sitting next to me can spew. At least I get ample time to do my homework then.

Fortunately, my school has a very holy priest (I’ve only known him for a few weeks, but regardless). Seeing him for confession every Wednesday has really helped my relationship with God. He also got me into praying the rosary on a regular basis, another thing that strengthened me. Supposedly he only gets 3-4 people every Wednesday. Shows how many people care about God.

Questions, comments? I wanted to share this with you guys.
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My friend, you are fighting in the modern crusade for moral decency. Stand strong.
 
Generic_Man said:
NOTE: I know this doesn’t fit the board all to well, but it’s the closest fit I could find.

I go to a very small, Catholic high school. Would you think that this means that it is freed from the evils of all the other high schools? Sadly that is wrong.

The most obvious thing is that no one cares about chastity. Boys think of the girls like pinup posters or sex toys, the girls dress like prostitutes (on no uniform days of course), they make lewd jokes, openly admit to masturbating, grind, participate in hook ups, and either want to fornicate or already have.

Swearing is also commonplace. I must hear dozens of curses every day.

And telling them that it’s wrong is like trying to slam a revovling door. I always say that they shouldn’t insult people, shouldn’t talk about like girls like that, shouldn’t swear, but it all fallls on deaf ears. It’s actually gotten me to become fairly disliked by some people.

It really makes me hate lunch hour. Nothing to do but eat and listen to whatever garnage the people sitting next to me can spew. At least I get ample time to do my homework then.

Fortunately, my school has a very holy priest (I’ve only known him for a few weeks, but regardless). Seeing him for confession every Wednesday has really helped my relationship with God. He also got me into praying the rosary on a regular basis, another thing that strengthened me. Supposedly he only gets 3-4 people every Wednesday. Shows how many people care about God.

Questions, comments? I wanted to share this with you guys.
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In many cases, parents who just want their children to be sheltered from the supposed bad effects of public school, send their kids to Catholic school–but have no intentions of raising their kids Catholic. It is my job to raise my kids as Catholics. Not, a school’s job. The school should act as a conduit…or a supplement to what these kids are being taught at home. Simply put, if kids do not learn morality at home…they will not display it at school. I agree with the poster who says that maybe you are called to become a light for others…all it takes is one flicker, to be the light for many.

But, to me… the school is not the place for my kids to learn morality…they should be learning that at home. Not to say that the school cannot be a conduit for that morality…now, that is something public schools lack.
 
Generic_Man said:
NOTE: I know this doesn’t fit the board all to well, but it’s the closest fit I could find.

I go to a very small, Catholic high school. Would you think that this means that it is freed from the evils of all the other high schools? Sadly that is wrong.

The most obvious thing is that no one cares about chastity. Boys think of the girls like pinup posters or sex toys, the girls dress like prostitutes (on no uniform days of course), they make lewd jokes, openly admit to masturbating, grind, participate in hook ups, and either want to fornicate or already have.

Swearing is also commonplace. I must hear dozens of curses every day.

And telling them that it’s wrong is like trying to slam a revovling door. I always say that they shouldn’t insult people, shouldn’t talk about like girls like that, shouldn’t swear, but it all fallls on deaf ears. It’s actually gotten me to become fairly disliked by some people.

It really makes me hate lunch hour. Nothing to do but eat and listen to whatever garnage the people sitting next to me can spew. At least I get ample time to do my homework then.

Fortunately, my school has a very holy priest (I’ve only known him for a few weeks, but regardless). Seeing him for confession every Wednesday has really helped my relationship with God. He also got me into praying the rosary on a regular basis, another thing that strengthened me. Supposedly he only gets 3-4 people every Wednesday. Shows how many people care about God.

Questions, comments? I wanted to share this with you guys.
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Sadly my public school is worse than this. I see the same exact things you see plus more, and in greater numbers. I could go on ranting all day about all the evils i see: sex, cursing (practically every other word), drugs, and when people are not doing these things theyre boasting about past experiences. And it doesnt help that 9/10 students is agnostic or atheist and a staunch liberal. I feel like a commisoner Gordon in a pre-Batman Gotham city if you know what I mean. Whenever i try to condemn their actions, its seen as a joke or just ignored, so i just leave the area when this goes on. I too have been subject to ridicule to an extent, in fact a few weeks ago i was called a puritan in a derogotory way. At least in your situation there are still superiors who appear to be on the same page youre on, however in my school the administration is just as bad as the students. I tell you, the health class is basically a pro-abortion planned parenthood Christian hating “educational experience” I almost reached boiling point last year during unit on contraception and abortion ( i was one inch away from flipping over the desk and storming out) The statement that is seared in my head from that class is"Thank god for planned parenthood" said by our teacher. I almost completely lost it after that. The bias in the history department is so blatently anti-Catholic and anti-Conservative. And to sum up our English class so far this year ill tell you all what we “learned.” We learned that Christians are just opressive hypocritical bigots who have taken advantage of everyone they have come across in their entire existence. This is supposed to be a public school, not some leftist propaganda facility. Sorry for the rant, just had to get this out. But i also have a question. Generic man, how are the administrators in your school? do they support the things you described under the banner of freedom like mine, or are they actually living their faith?
 
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Sadly my public school is worse than this. I see the same exact things you see plus more, and in greater numbers. I could go on ranting all day about all the evils i see: sex, cursing (practically every other word), drugs, and when people are not doing these things theyre boasting about past experiences. And it doesnt help that 9/10 students is agnostic or atheist and a staunch liberal. I feel like a commisoner Gordon in a pre-Batman Gotham city if you know what I mean. Whenever i try to condemn their actions, its seen as a joke or just ignored, so i just leave the area when this goes on. I too have been subject to ridicule to an extent, in fact a few weeks ago i was called a puritan in a derogotory way. At least in your situation there are still superiors who appear to be on the same page youre on, however in my school the administration is just as bad as the students. I tell you, the health class is basically a pro-abortion planned parenthood Christian hating “educational experience” I almost reached boiling point last year during unit on contraception and abortion ( i was one inch away from flipping over the desk and storming out) The statement that is seared in my head from that class is"Thank god for planned parenthood" said by our teacher. I almost completely lost it after that. The bias in the history department is so blatently anti-Catholic and anti-Conservative. And to sum up our English class so far this year ill tell you all what we “learned.” We learned that Christians are just opressive hypocritical bigots who have taken advantage of everyone they have come across in their entire existence. This is supposed to be a public school, not some leftist propaganda facility. Sorry for the rant, just had to get this out. But i also have a question. Generic man, how are the administrators in your school? do they support the things you described under the banner of freedom like mine, or are they actually living their faith?
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This is very sad. It sounds as though many schools today, including primary, secondary, and college, are actively working to overthrow western civilization as well as any morality. They seek to undermine the morals of any kids who happen to retain traces of traditional virtue. Why would any parent voluntarily send their children to such schools?
 
Hi,

I’m a hmshl veteran mom of 3 grown boys. You are fighting a personal battle many of us adults do only for you it is extra hard bc you are in a supposedly Chirstian environment.

Here is an article you might find uplifting:
msnbc.msn.com/id/21647152/
It’s about a girl who started an anti-abortion group in her public school.

I would also suggest you find a few others to help bring a speaker to your school like Pam Stenzel (you can see some video of her on You Tube), or maybe someone in your area. Just make sure they are really good and used to presenting to teens.

Maybe you could arm yourself with some literature on HPV. Those who think they are practicing “safe sex” are fooling themselves. Gardasil will not protect all, nor is it completely safe. Some have died after getting only one shot. (sarcastic remark: maybe that’s how the drug companies figure you’ll be “one less”? )
Check with your local pro-life group. They may be glad to give you some pamphlets.

Keep praying the rosary. This phase of your life may be lonely, but hand in there, kid! Sadly, when I was in high school, I didn’t think religion was cool; I wish I’d stayed closer to the Church.

Perhaps you could bring up fornication and its consequences in religion class? I understand the society in Jesus’ time was much like our own in that there was a lot of immorality, divorce, abortion and adultery/fornication.

God bless,
Mimi
 
I thought of another thing; a good speaker on Theology of the Body would perhaps get some of them thinking about how we image God.

Mimi
 
Here’s another thought - a lot of these kids are just that - kids - and still have a lot to learn and are a ways from maturity. There’s still hope for them. Even if you get made fun of for your beliefs and for any points you make, something you say may hit home for them somewhere down the road.

There are people in my age group (late 30’s, early 40’s) that I can’t say the same for. Life’s trials have still not brought some of them around.
 
Hi there,
I know how you feel in a way (althought my situation isn’t quite as bad). I’m in my final year of high school and I’ve found that around 1 in every 3 kids at my school do not believe in God. It’s sad and some of them are very negative towards our faith and talk badly about it. I sometimes get sad when I realize how hard it is to make good practicing Catholic friends. But you just have to stick in there, all I can say is that you’re not alone in your battle. I’ve felt the same way many times over the past couple years. Turn to God. Pray for those people… they need our prayers.
 
Well, I see a lot of the same sort of replies, which are good. All of which are good. I just feel that I can help out a little in this area to help you understand that… you live in the world. And in the world, there is evil and corruption. This doesn’t mean that high school is bad, or anything in this world is bad, but things are used in ways that they weren’t meant to be used. This is when it becomes evil. Something that I think will help you tremendously would be to focus more on yourself. Don’t take me the wrong way, because I know that I felt exactly the same as you many times, and still do many times. I don’t mean that your a bad person, on the contrary, I think your a good person, otherwise all those things wouldn’t affect you as much. 👍 What I mean is, you can’t do anything to change people. In general, the devout, faith-living people in this world are a small percentage, so no matter where you are from Catholic school to ghetto schools there will be good people and there will be people who do bad things. If you magnify all the horrible things you hear and see from others than your going to be miserable. This is a way the devil uses to get to us if he can’t get to us straight through evil deeds. Be careful not to get caught up in all the negatives about your school, friends, and people in general. See the good in people, look for the good, hope for the good, give them the benefit of the doubt. Learn that there are times when we need to step in, and times when we need to let people live their lives and learn on God’s time. God wants all men to be saved, as well as the Church, but if the Church went out and criticized every institution, organization or persons (and believe me all of those can easily be criticized for one reason or another), it would be very hard to bring them into the Church. Now when the government is trying to make killing babies legal, there is the Church taking a hard stance. This is how we can best be a light to the world, love the people and hate the sin. Pick and choose your battles and keep your attitude in a positive light. See the good aspects in people and in the world and it will be easier to love them. Jesus loved and loves all sinners, even though we all do horrible things at times. So my advice, from much personal experience, is to try and let go of all the things that contradict your beliefs (that others do). Don’t dawn on them so much that it upsets you, and certainly don’t point out every time someone is wrong or doing wrong somewhere. You don’t have to participate, but be patient with people and you will earn their love and respect. If they are getting into a car so drunk that they don’t remember how to steer the wheel left or up (which you can’t do by the way, thats a clear sign if they ask you how to steer up) then you step in and take a stance against them driving intoxicated, but if they’re cussing up a storm you can be the light by just letting them and speaking politely and purely at all times. They will notice and will at times become ashamed of their dirty language and will probably mention it to you or apologize (this happens to me all the time). The best and last advice I can give is, when you see people doing something bad, speaking sinfully, or what have you, first pray for them. Pray for them as soon as you hear them say something, or do something, and then pray for yourself, for guidance, patience and for God and your guardian angel to help you understand what to do in the situation. Good luck buddy, I’ll pray for you! God Bless
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Wow.

I can only empathize with you. I’m in a more or less the same situation.

Most of the people in my environment are Catholic, yet no one seems to act like one. Seriously. Like from your experience, people joke carelessly about premarital sex & the like. Just look at the places they go, the things they read & watch, the clothes they wear, what they’re talking about.That’s not right.

I could just go on & on about the people in my environment. I’m so frustrated because I just want to meet good Catholic people.

What I can tell you is to pray for a good environment. I’m doing it right now & trusting in God. I’m asking for the intercession of St. Raphael so that I’ll be able to meet good Catholic friends who share my values.

In the meantime, I offer up all these to God for the conversion of sinners and for the holy souls, or for whatever in His will He might want to use these sufferings.
 
sigh It was like that at my high school. I was a rather liberal Catholic back then, but things still bothered me about what was going on in school.
If the priest at your school is as orthodox as you say he is, you should make an appointment to speak with him about your concerns. He may be able to help bring in speakers like Christopher West, Fr. Larry Richards, or the Hahns.
Does your school offer ENCOUNTER?
 
Generic_Man said:
NOTE: I go to a very small, Catholic high school. Would you think that this means that it is freed from the evils of all the other high schools? Sadly that is wrong…Questions, comments? I wanted to share this with you guys.
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Do you think high school has changed? I graduated in 1970 from an all boys catholic high school. It was the same back then! Things haven’t changed at all. Attend to your own spirituality and your own spiritual development. If you can talk with the priest, then do so, and take part in prayer and whatever liturgies they have. It’s only four years (you didn’t specify what year you are in). Then you can choose a good catholic college to attend, like Steubenville or Ave Maria University. It’s just part of growing up. Don’t get disheartened over it.
 
See if there’s a Disciples of Jesus and Mary group near you: (solt.org/djm.html) the formation group will help you figure out more clearly who God is calling you to be. Armed with that knowledge, one can endure anything- even the horrors of the 21st century educational system.

God bless,
FMS
 
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