Hillary S.C. Straw Poll. "2008 Frontrunner"?

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Clinton wins S.C. straw poll

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By LEE BANDY
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Richland County Democrats held the nation’s first straw poll for the 2008 presidential race Wednesday and the surprise winner was U.S. Sen. Hillary Clinton of New York.
“We’re simply delighted,” said Bob Kunst, president of Hillarynow.com, who is traveling the country promoting Clinton’s candidacy.

“This should help us in our effort. It gives us a nice boost.”

Clinton’s victory at the sparesely attended event was a mild upset. Former U.S. Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina, a native South Carolinian and last year’s Democratic vice presidential candidate, had been considered the favorite.

Clinton got 44 votes to 34 for Edwards. Virginia Gov. John Warner came in third with 32 votes and U.S. Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware got 24 votes.

Everyone else scored in the single digits.

The straw poll was conducted by the Democratic Party of Richland County, the most Democratic county in South Carolina and the state’s second-most populous.

Clinton’s supporters worked hard to get their voters to the county party’s event.

Earlier in the day, Kunst promoted Clinton for president at a State House news conference and introduced the beginning of an organized effort here.

Margaret Ann Palmer, a retired state government worker from Columbia, is state director of Hillarynow.com.

Backers hoisted homemade signs, saying, “Hillary Cleaning Up Bush’s Mess” and “Hillary Is the Answer.”

Kunst, based in Miami Beach, said Clinton’s political advisers are aware of his push but stop short of saying it has her blessings. Clinton’s Washington office said Kunst is operating on his own, without any (name removed by moderator)ut from the senator.

Kunst traveled to 100 cities and conducted more than 510 news interviews between August 2003 and November 2004.

Kunst came here from the Bonneroo Music Festival in Manchester, Tenn., attended by some 90,000 people. There, he promoted Clinton with flyers, buttons and bumper stickers.

He worked Main Street most of the afternoon, trying to recruit supporters and to get them to attend the straw poll held in the office parking lot of Columbia attorney Joe McCulloch.

There, there was music, drinks, light food and politics — and retired U.S Sen. Fritz Hollings, who also spoke.

Kunst said Clinton “is the strongest Democrat, and if she stops playing ‘centrist’ and becomes the leader she is capable of being, she will be the first woman president in U.S history — with enormous international implications.”

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Fortunately, Richland County does not represent all of South Carolina and, even if she does win the Democratic nomination, she will still have to face a Republican opponent. Guess which way South Carolina has voted in recent years.
 
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Ahimsa:
Would South Carolina vote for Condi if she runs?
Probably not IMO, but what a race - both parties fielding a woman, and especially these two women!
 
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Ahimsa:
Would South Carolina vote for Condi if she runs?
Against Hillary, probably so. In addition, I suspect she would pick up a large portion of the traditionally Democratic black vote.
 
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geezerbob:
Against Hillary, probably so. In addition, I suspect she would pick up a large portion of the traditionally Democratic black vote.
Black voters are traditionally Democrats. Sure, she’d pick up a percentage, but not enough, I think.

I am personally doubtful that very many Southern white men would vote for a black woman for President. On the other hand, the redneck vote is certainly not going to vote for Hillary.

It would be a very interesting race!
 
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Richardols:
Black voters are traditionally Democrats. Sure, she’d pick up a percentage, but not enough, I think.

I am personally doubtful that very many Southern white men would vote for a black woman for President. On the other hand, the redneck vote is certainly not going to vote for Hillary.

It would be a very interesting race!
You misunderestimate ( 😃 ) how close to collapse the democratic party is if the black vote continues to slide, even by a few percentages, toward the gop.

And I also think your knee-jerk “southern-white-men-must-be-racist” analysis is stuck in circa 1955. It’s 2005, and while I don’t discount that racism certainly still exists, I think most S. Carolinians will support a states-rights, gun-rights, advocate-of-the-military candidate any day over a socialist, gun-control, “The WOT-is-Abu-Graib” candidate, regardless of gender or skin color.
 
The SC legislature probably makes the state appear more racist than it is. Granted, there are some rednecks and blacks who are blatantly racist, but most of the citizenry are educated enough and have enough common sense to to make selections based on other qualities. There are enough “old guard” politicians around to effectively control things in the legislature and to quickly corrupt and/or control any maverick newcomers, so change at the top is a long time coming. The competition seems to be more liberal vs. conservative than anything else, with some blocs voting the way they do for reasons known only to themselves. A conservative black candidate would (and has) certainly garner a fair share of the white conservative vote.

A match up between Rice and Clinton would be interesting, to say the least. Redneck Republicans and dyed in the wool black Democrats would sure be in a quandary and would probably give the rest of us some good laughs. Ah well, we’ll see when the time comes.
 
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Richardols:
Black voters are traditionally Democrats. Sure, she’d pick up a percentage, but not enough, I think.

I am personally doubtful that very many Southern white men would vote for a black woman for President. On the other hand, the redneck vote is certainly not going to vote for Hillary.

It would be a very interesting race!
WOW! So you think white men, white Christian Southern men couldn’t vote for a woman, a black woman? Let’s ask all the Southern men to chime in.

To all Southern men, Are you racist and sexist? I don’t think so.
 
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