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Is there any historical document available from the first century written by someone who new Jesus and knew he started Catholicism?
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Jesus wasn’t Catholic. He was Jewish. He founded the Catholic Church.Is there any historical document available from the first century written by someone who new Jesus and knew he was Catholic/started Catholicism?
You are describing the New Testament.Is there any historical document available from the first century written by someone who [k]new Jesus and knew he started Catholicism?
What part are you looking for? He handed his leadership to Peter establishing a Papal line and the power to make rules.I understand the history of Jesus but where is the proof he founded the catholic church.
OK, you got me there. The historical fact is that Christ and His Apostles founded the United Methodist Church, but power mad Romans broke away from the True Church and founded the Church of Rome circa 350 AD.I understand the history of Jesus but where is the proof he founded the catholic church.
Wut? UMC was founded in the 1900’sunitive_mystic:![]()
OK, you got me there. The historical fact is that Christ and His Apostles founded the United Methodist Church, but power mad Romans broke away from the True Church and founded the Church of Rome circa 350 AD.I understand the history of Jesus but where is the proof he founded the catholic church.
Well, Jesus handing over the leadership of the Church is in the Protestant Bible. They just say it’s figurative, much like the Eucharist.Any evidence outside the bible? You can’t really use scripture as historical evidence when it comes to a protestant. At least the One I know.
Faith is our proof; any other “proof” is disputable and hence irrelevant.I understand the history of Jesus but where is the proof he founded the catholic church.
That’s completely silly. If that was the case we wouldn’t have theology and apologetics.unitive_mystic:![]()
Faith is our proof; any other “proof” is disputable and hence irrelevant.I understand the history of Jesus but where is the proof he founded the catholic church.
Silly? A little harsh…maybe you just meant to say you disagree?..variances of opinion summarily dismissed does little for civil discourse.That’s completely silly. If that was the case we wouldn’t have theology and apologetics.
It’s silly because facts are needed.Xanthippe_Voorhees:![]()
Silly? A little harsh…maybe you just meant to say you disagree?..variances of opinion summarily dismissed does little for civil discourse.That’s completely silly. If that was the case we wouldn’t have theology and apologetics.
Theology is often argued with, and apologetics only present one side…while both are important, without the component of faith all the theology and all the apologetics can easily be disputed or dismissed.