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Hello all,
This is my first post, so I’d like to introduce myself. I’m John, a graduate student in music with a penchant for early sacred music (Renaissance polyphony especially), the Latin language, and Christianity (historically, theologically, etc.). I grew up in the Methodist church, but through music, I find a particular closeness to older Catholic traditions (even if my own understanding of the intricacies is not what I wish it were). Either way, I do have a specific question I would appreciate any help with that can be offered (and one that I hope has been placed in the correct forum).
Orlando di Lasso, a Catholic Franco-Flemish composer working in Munich in the employ of Duke Albrecht V, wrote a motet in 1579 that is a setting of 1 Corinthians 13:11 - 13 (When I was a child . . . ). The Latin text starts out “Cum essem parvulus” if anyone happens to be familiar with the motet. Sources I’ve seen reference August of 1579, and I do not know if this means it was written in August of 1579, first used in a service in the chapel in August of 1579, or both (though I suspect the second or third options).
I’m wondering if there might be a way of finding out how this piece may have fit into the service, or any more specifics about it. I’m trying to research the motet historically, but I’m especially interested in how it would have fit into the mass. If there were assigned scriptures for particular Sundays for the month of August in 1579 in Munich, the motet may have fit in with a scriptural theme specifically. If it may have been a feast day, or some other sort of special celebration, that could have significance.
Unfortunately, I do not know how one would go about finding these things out, or if it is even possible without hoping for some long lost scrap of note that the composer himself may have written. Is there some way to determine specific readings from a timespan in history? If so, were these scriptures used reliably throughout Christendom, or would it be common to disregard them in favor of a local choice? If anyone happens to have any such knowledge (whether of how to obtain the information, of the information itself, or of the motet), I would greatly appreciate any help you could offer.
Dominus vobiscum,
This is my first post, so I’d like to introduce myself. I’m John, a graduate student in music with a penchant for early sacred music (Renaissance polyphony especially), the Latin language, and Christianity (historically, theologically, etc.). I grew up in the Methodist church, but through music, I find a particular closeness to older Catholic traditions (even if my own understanding of the intricacies is not what I wish it were). Either way, I do have a specific question I would appreciate any help with that can be offered (and one that I hope has been placed in the correct forum).
Orlando di Lasso, a Catholic Franco-Flemish composer working in Munich in the employ of Duke Albrecht V, wrote a motet in 1579 that is a setting of 1 Corinthians 13:11 - 13 (When I was a child . . . ). The Latin text starts out “Cum essem parvulus” if anyone happens to be familiar with the motet. Sources I’ve seen reference August of 1579, and I do not know if this means it was written in August of 1579, first used in a service in the chapel in August of 1579, or both (though I suspect the second or third options).
I’m wondering if there might be a way of finding out how this piece may have fit into the service, or any more specifics about it. I’m trying to research the motet historically, but I’m especially interested in how it would have fit into the mass. If there were assigned scriptures for particular Sundays for the month of August in 1579 in Munich, the motet may have fit in with a scriptural theme specifically. If it may have been a feast day, or some other sort of special celebration, that could have significance.
Unfortunately, I do not know how one would go about finding these things out, or if it is even possible without hoping for some long lost scrap of note that the composer himself may have written. Is there some way to determine specific readings from a timespan in history? If so, were these scriptures used reliably throughout Christendom, or would it be common to disregard them in favor of a local choice? If anyone happens to have any such knowledge (whether of how to obtain the information, of the information itself, or of the motet), I would greatly appreciate any help you could offer.
Dominus vobiscum,
- John