History behind christian religious fasting and head coverings? Are they still necessary to that same degree? And why they 'went out of style'?

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Neither you nor @vsedriver may perceive yourselves as engaging in anti-veiling rhetoric. From my perspective though, attempting to rewrite history to frame veiling as mere culture/hygiene, is anti-veiling rhetoric, because it achieves the purpose of discouraging people from religious veiling when we obviously don’t live in such cultural/hygienic circumstances.

There we go. I’m sure my post will be utterly uncontroversial and get no one else’s back up.
 
I’m sorry i made a thread that has just lead to people arguing in the comments. I never intended that. I just thought that everyone seems so much more knowledgeable than me, that i would be good to ask. I didn’t anticipate all of this controversy. I value everyone’s opinions and seeing what everyone’s had to say has taught me a lot.

I will end this by saying that i see both of your viewpoints, @LumineDiei and @MNathaniel and everyone else here. Nathaniel, you bring up precisely why i became drawn towards veiling/head. covering in the first place. I found scriptural support for it. LumineDiei, you and others here taught me about the historical, cultural, practical reasons behind it. Thank you everyone for responding to help me understand. Please don’t yell or fight. I would close this thread to more responses but i don’t know how or if that’s even possible for me to do. I didn’t mean to cause such discord. I’m sorry.
 
And why do women and not men typically have long hair? This is not the norm in every culture but only in some, the same as with headcoverings. It has nothing to do with hygiene but because of complex cultural norms.
 
St Paul, guided by the Holy Spirit, called the women of Corinth to cover their heads while at prayer and in Church.
that is all this discussion was about. I think it is very important to know WHY St Paul made this call. It is often used by non-Catholics to claim that the Church ‘has changed her teachings’.

It has nothing to do with whether or not someone wants to veil. That is a personal devotion and any devotion that brings someone closer to Christ is a good thing. It’s just not a discipline of the Church at this time nor is it a dogmatic teaching.
 
And why do women and not men typically have long hair? This is not the norm in every culture but only in some, the same as with headcoverings. It has nothing to do with hygiene but because of complex cultural norms.
except that Paul was addressing a culture whose women did use head coverings for hygiene. St Paul was not concerned about head coverings per se, he was concerned about behavior. And that is what we are to take from this scripture. Paul is not saying that women who don’t veil are sinful. He’s saying women who don’t treat the Mass with respect are sinful. There were no churches or public places where Christians gathered for the Mass. They met in private homes. Women who treated the Mass as a causal gathering, no different than a dinner party, were being disrespectful. That is what Paul had an issue with. And that’s why veiling is not a dogmatic teaching.

Mediterranean women covered their hair for hygienic purposes. Men in most of these cultures wore short hair so they didn’t have the same issues as women.

upper class women of Egypt shaved their heads and wore wigs.
 
And why do women and not men typically have long hair?
In Rome, from what I recall, men had short hair because short hair for men was seen as civilized (as opposed to “barbarian” hair). Women had long hair because it was a differentiation marker between sexes, and because long hair in women was seen as beautiful and a major factor for physical attractiveness. Roman culture encouraged hair grooming and elaborate hairstyles in ladies, but haircare was a subject of mockery for men.
If hygiene was the main reason for women covering their hair, men would have done it all the same.
My husband is Korean. In his traditionally Confucian culture, both men and women wore (very) long hair, as they considered their hair, as the rest of their body, as a gift from their parents it would have been disrespectful to cut. Hair was worn in a bun, low on the neck for women, on the top of the head for men.

Both sexes wore head covers. Headbands and tall hats for men, in order to fit the bun underneath. Ladies wore a coat on their heads outside the house. Or complex (and cumbersome) hats, with a “bun-flap”. Some of the wealthier ones wore elaborate braided wigs.

If you were poor and hard-working, then there weren’t many solutions except headbands and making tight buns wrapped in a piece of cloth.

In this case, wearing one’s hair long was a sign of filial devotion, but covering it was more for practical reasons.
It has nothing to do with hygiene but because of complex cultural norms.
I’m not saying differently. I’m just trying to point out that how long one wears one’s hair is a cultural norm, and that that (cultural) hair length implies a particular hair care which, in the case of long hair, often includes covering it, whether it’s male of female.
From my perspective though, attempting to rewrite history to frame veiling as mere culture/hygiene, is anti-veiling rhetoric, because it achieves the purpose of discouraging people from religious veiling when we obviously don’t live in such cultural/hygienic circumstances.
On my part, it’s definitely not anti-veiling rhetoric. On the contrary, I think there is something beautiful in seeing religious veiling as subverting (converting, maybe, in the strong sense of the word – turning away from the world and towards God) a practice which originated in practical needs and often was a social status marker. I see in it a kind of re-ordering from pride to humility, from seduciveness to virtue.

In short, I’m not sure the veil has religious origins; but it very much acquired (and I don’t see why it would have lost) a religious purpose.

That’s the same for most liturgical vestments, btw. They began their history as profane, day-to-day clothing for everyday purposes, and evolved along with the Christian faith to acquire a completely other signification, one which turns people toward God. It’s a kind of “making holy” of the everyday.
 
short hair for men was seen as civilized (as opposed to “barbarian” hair)
This cultural perception persisted for quite a long time. The following is an illustration from the 9th century Chludov Psalter depicting the 8th century iconoclasm controversy:

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Many commentators have noted the long, unkempt, prickly hair (rather short by modern standards!) of the iconoclast. Somewhat hilariously, the caption to the left notes that a later reader scrubbed out the iconoclast’s face (ασβεστον επι το προσωπον).
 
and i’ve never once seen a Christian woman in a head covering. Very traditionally dressed, yes, but not a head covering. I have heard head coverings linked to very small ‘off-shoots’ of christianity
Catholic women and most all other Christian women wore head coverings when in prayer or to Mass, whether it be a veil or a hat, up until the 1960’s. At that time feminist women encouraged Christian women to stop wearing their head coverings. It has been said that one head of the National Organization for Women asked women to send their veils to her and she would burn them. Feminists did this because they did not understand that the head covering was worn in reverence to being in the presence of our Lord.

From what I understand very many Eastern Christians still wear head coverings and there is a slow return of head coverings in Catholic churches and in many protestant denominations the women still cover their heads while in prayer.
 
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