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Rather assuming the Catholic Church is the Church Jesus Christ found, I felt the need to ask, how far can your christian church trace back, what tradition do they consist and how did they appear in your church in the first place, and also I wanted to ask how many of the books in the Bible do they believe.
 
Benjamin8o8 said:
Rather assuming the Catholic Church is the Church Jesus Christ found, I felt the need to ask, how far can your christian church trace back, what tradition do they consist and how did they appear in your church in the first place, and also I wanted to ask how many of the books in the Bible do they believe.
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No one except Roman Catholics accept that the Roman Catholic Church is the “church” that Christ founded.
 
Hisalone said:
No one except Roman Catholics accept that the Roman Catholic Church is the “church” that Christ founded.
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Hi

There you are right. Mormons, JW’s and Protestants I think don’t accept this statement.

Thanks
 
Hisalone said:
No one except Roman Catholics accept that the Roman Catholic Church is the “church” that Christ founded.
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so only the Catholic Church claims this? Not the others? How come if I may ask?
 
Benjamin8o8 said:
Rather assuming the Catholic Church is the Church Jesus Christ found, I felt the need to ask, how far can your christian church trace back, what tradition do they consist and how did they appear in your church in the first place, and also I wanted to ask how many of the books in the Bible do they believe.
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Our church was established in the US before John Carroll even arrived. We have a high regard for tradition and observe many of the same traditions that Roman Catholics and EOs observe. We believe in all books of the Bible. We don’t draw doctrines of faith from the apocryphal texts but certainly recognize their value from a historical perspective. What else would you like to know??
 
NDfan said:
Our church was established in the US before John Carroll even arrived. We have a high regard for tradition and observe many of the same traditions that Roman Catholics and EOs observe. We believe in all books of the Bible. We don’t draw doctrines of faith from the apocryphal texts but certainly recognize their value from a historical perspective. What else would you like to know??
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Thank you for anyswering brother. I would like to know, who specifically did establish your church? Did you adopt the traditions from the Roman Catholics or did they emerge upon your church by others? So you believe in all 73 books?
 
Benjamin8o8 said:
Thank you for anyswering brother. I would like to know, who specifically did establish your church? Did you adopt the traditions from the Roman Catholics or did they emerge upon your church by others? So you believe in all 73 books?
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Benjamin we adopted many traditions from the RCC. A gentleman by the name of William McComas and his wife donated the land and built the first building that served as a place of worship. Prior to a formal place of worship getting built a gentlemen by the name of Samuel Rogers led a multi-denominational group of Christians for worship. The church has maintained this non-denominational approach for almost 200 years now. I believe Rogers family roots are traced back to the initial reformation movement.

As far as believe in all 73 books what do you mean by that? We’re guarded to use them for doctrines of faith because Jerome himself as well as many popes stated they shouldn’t be. They’re good for edification because they fill in the gap from around 400bc forward. We partake in the Lord’s supper every week and certainly believe in the real presence. We don’t use the term transubstantiation because that doctrine doesn’t make sense. Not trying to derail your thread here. We observe many traditions that go back to the early church. Lent, Advent, All Saints day, etc. etc. Those traditions are a rich part of church history.
 
NDfan said:
Benjamin we adopted many traditions from the RCC. A gentleman by the name of William McComas and his wife donated the land and built the first building that served as a place of worship. Prior to a formal place of worship getting built a gentlemen by the name of Samuel Rogers led a multi-denominational group of Christians for worship. The church has maintained this non-denominational approach for almost 200 years now. I believe Rogers family roots are traced back to the initial reformation movement.

As far as believe in all 73 books what do you mean by that? We’re guarded to use them for doctrines of faith because Jerome himself as well as many popes stated they shouldn’t be. They’re good for edification because they fill in the gap from around 400bc forward. We partake in the Lord’s supper every week and certainly believe in the real presence. We don’t use the term transubstantiation because that doctrine doesn’t make sense. Not trying to derail your thread here. We observe many traditions that go back to the early church. Lent, Advent, All Saints day, etc. etc. Those traditions are a rich part of church history.
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I believe the question was do you have all 73 books in your bible? A simple yes or no will suffice. And the fact of the matter is even though you must ask “what do you mean by that”? Goes to show how you don’t really understand the bible and how it was compiled with the 73 books until Luther flung out 7 of them.
Furthermore, you just named several people starting churches, but what about the man called Jesus Christ?
 
OneTrueCathApos said:
I believe the question was do you have all 73 books in your bible? A simple yes or no will suffice. And the fact of the matter is even though you must ask “what do you mean by that”? Goes to show how you don’t really understand the bible and how it was compiled with the 73 books until Luther flung out 7 of them.
Furthermore, you just named several people starting churches, but what about the man called Jesus Christ?
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Seeing as you’re being inflammatory, I’ll ask you a few questions.

Did the RCC ‘fling out’ all the books that are currently in the Eastern orthodox canon and not in the catholic canon? What about the even more books in the oriental orthodox canon?
 
OneTrueCathApos said:
I believe the question was do you have all 73 books in your bible? A simple yes or no will suffice.
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That wasn’t the question. Are you that ignorant or just that illiterate 🤷 To repeat, the question was: do we believe in all 73 books. I wanted to clarify if Benjamin was asking historically or doctrinally. So once again asked and answered. You just seem to not be able to read for some reason.
And the fact of the matter is even though you must ask “what do you mean by that”? Goes to show how you don’t really understand the bible and how it was compiled with the 73 books until Luther flung out 7 of them.
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Anytime you want to engage in an exegetical study of scripture please name the topic and I’ll make sure to prove your ineptness.
Furthermore, you just named several people starting churches, but what about the man called Jesus Christ?
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As far as naming people again Benjamin asked who started our church. Of course Christ is the founder of the Christian church. But I believe the question is who started our branch of the Christian church. You may want to stay out of other people’s conversations given you make a complete fool of yourself.
 
grampben said:
Seeing as you’re being inflammatory, I’ll ask you a few questions.

Did the RCC ‘fling out’ all the books that are currently in the Eastern orthodox canon and not in the catholic canon? What about the even more books in the oriental orthodox canon?
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I wouldn’t even dignify his/her post with a response. Obviously inflammatory responses are the only thing he/she is capable of. Consistent across all threads.
 
NDfan said:
I wouldn’t even dignify his/her post with a response. Obviously inflammatory responses are the only thing he/she is capable of. Consistent across all threads.
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I think it’s funny how whenever you don’t like one’s responses, or can’t answer a question, you get all defensive…but that is the Protestant way…🤷
 
OneTrueCathApos said:
I think it’s funny how whenever you don’t like one’s responses, or can’t answer a question, you get all defensive…but that is the Protestant way…🤷
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Have you ever met any Protestants? The majority of them are people who sincerely believe what they believe in.

Look, the fact that the Catholic Church holds the fullness of truth means that we need to be good apologists, and insulting the people you are trying to convince is not an effective method of apologetics.
 
Lujack said:
Have you ever met any Protestants? The majority of them are people who sincerely believe what they believe in.

Look, the fact that the Catholic Church holds the fullness of truth means that we need to be good apologists, and insulting the people you are trying to convince is not an effective method of apologetics.
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Oh the user is not insulting, after all I deserve it for ignoring the truth and wanting to have civil discussion on a non catholic religions sub-forum :rolleyes:
 
Lujack said:
Have you ever met any Protestants? The majority of them are people who sincerely believe what they believe in.

Look, the fact that the Catholic Church holds the fullness of truth means that we need to be good apologists, and insulting the people you are trying to convince is not an effective method of apologetics.
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Of course, one of my closest friends is Protestant. We have discussions and one respects my faith and even carries a Rosary in her car. My best friend is Jewish. Just because I know they do not have the fullness of the truth, I don’t need to remind them. God will sort them out.
 
Hisalone said:
No one except Roman Catholics accept that the Roman Catholic Church is the “church” that Christ founded.
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Check your local library lately? Most Enyclopedias record Jesus founded the Catholic church, Ann Landers a Jewish secular author researched this for her readers and confirmed that Jesus Christ of Nazareth founded the Roman Catholic church. The religious Jewish Community publicly and documented that Jesus founded the Catholic church. The world is alot bigger than you think.
 
Gabriel_of_12 said:
Check your local library lately? Most Enyclopedias record Jesus founded the Catholic church, Ann Landers a Jewish secular author researched this for her readers and confirmed that Jesus Christ of Nazareth founded the Roman Catholic church. The religious Jewish Community publicly and documented that Jesus founded the Catholic church. The world is alot bigger than you think.
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Man, we need to start making youtube videos and start defending our faith worldwide lol:p
 
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