Hitler's religion

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In Rabbi David Dalin’s book “The Myth of Hitler’s Pope”, something is mentioned about an active participation of the Great Mufti of Jerusalem in the making of the Holocaust, I didn’t go to the extent of reading the details, though. That being said, it doesn’t mean that all Muslims gave a hand to Hitler. But if some influent people among them did, a number of people quite automatically would follow them, I’d think…
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You are right - not all muslims gave a hand to Hitler. I did not say that nor does the article that I post say that. It is the start and the help of the nazis that the current radicalization had its beginnings. That is the point. Read.
 
And interestingly enough, Hitler was against Communism also. He linked this both to Christianity and Judaism… Could be laughable if he was not so dead serious when uttering this… with so deadly consequences for so many people, mostly the Jews
 
I would appreciate some proof of that assertion that there were thousands upon thousands on the British side, or any allied side. thanks, there should be something to back yourself up.

geez, if you read the article you would read that the current radicalization started then. Many of the ones who were participants of the Nazi regime went to saudi arabia and taught wahabbism.

As for islam and fascism - this is not the thread for this - but yes, it is a fascist regime - once again, read the definition of fascsim that I posted.

Historically credible? Well, actually yes fascism does indeed apply to islam. One caliphate, one umma, a set of laws to not only control their sex lives, bathroom behavior, but political life, religious life, eating behavior, how they treat their subjugated ones (dhimmi), how to conduct war, etc. they feel they are muslims first and citizens of whatever country they reside in second.

sharia law: frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=8AD3D2F1-FD2C-4E78-B233-2F97FCF97B94

The history of islam is extensive. It includes the history of not only the Middle East, but of their conquests (three major jihad movements with a 4th declared late last year, 2007) in India, Southeast Asia, Europe, and Africa.

Here is a separate article on the palestinian Arabs and Hitler.
shalomjerusalem.com/mohammedism/mohammedism22.html

Here is a shorter article on the Arab-Hitler connection:
cdn-friends-icej.ca/antiholo/arabnazi.html

I mean there is proof galor of the tie, but I don’t find anything about muslims and the British in WWII. Now, there might have been a few muslims who supported the allies - but no powerful ones.
 
Lapell said:
And interestingly enough, Hitler was against Communism also. He linked this both to Christianity and Judaism… Could be laughable if he was not so dead serious when uttering this… with so deadly consequences for so many people, mostly the Jews
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I think the guy was a nut job and as with any psychopath - just uttered dumb excuses to carry on his murderous rampages. He used the slaughter of the Armenian Christians by the muslims as his excuse to carry on the slaughter of mostly the Jews. He knew that no one noticed - or cared - and probably wouldn’t care about what he did either.

Hitler’s speech on Armenian genocide and no one noticed: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_quote
In his book What about Germany?, Lochner offered the following English translation of the document then in his possession:

Our strength consists in our speed and in our brutality. Genghis Khan led millions of women and children to slaughter—with premeditation and a happy heart. History sees in him solely the founder of a state. It’s a matter of indifference to me what a weak western European civilization will say about me. I have issued the command—and I’ll have anybody who utters but one word of criticism executed by a firing squad—that our war aim does not consist in reaching certain lines, but in the physical destruction of the enemy. Accordingly, I have placed my death-head formation in readiness—for the present only in the East—with orders to them to send to death mercilessly and without compassion, men, women, and children of Polish derivation and language. Only thus shall we gain the living space (Lebensraum) which we need. Who, after all, speaks to-day of the annihilation of the Armenians?
—p. 11–12
 
Well, thanks I have read where they are indeed in the Indian military.

But, I still don’t see what the problem is with accepting that islam is a fascist organization, or that its current radicalization started in the 1920s and was helped along by Hitler. It is a fact. Maybe it is a more unknown fact, and will stay unknown in our current politically correct environment at the schools because they are worried about offending musims - hence the reason why the Armenian genocide will never be mentioned.

And we know that since then India is one who has appeased the muslims trying to curb the violence (and once again that didn’t work - as it doesn’t work for Israel, the Philippines or anywhere) by letting them have pakistan.
 
R_not said:
Well, thanks I have read where they are indeed in the Indian military.

But, I still don’t see what the problem is with accepting that islam is a fascist organization, or that its current radicalization started in the 1920s and was helped along by Hitler.
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The radicalization in the 1920 makes it difficult for us to believe it was “a fascist organization” before, I guess! You don’t need to be fascist to be considered a hard regime, for one thing!
 
As we discuss whether Hitler was a Catholic(to which I always say"so what") let keep in mind our Church has a pretty good pedigree-Jesus was Catholic also.
 
Hitler believed in Hitler and he had a fanatically evangelical belief in “Hitlerism”, he thought everyone should believe in him too.

Anything that he could use to bolster that faith was fair territory as far as he was concerned.
 
Lapell said:
The radicalization in the 1920 makes it difficult for us to believe it was “a fascist organization” before, I guess! You don’t need to be fascist to be considered a hard regime, for one thing!
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The radicalization is just to explain what is happening now.

I already gave you an explanation of fascism and also of islam. It is indeed a fascism - if you want I can suggest books to read on its history both past and present besides the koran and hadiths, and also of its prophet.

Here is something else: there are two realms that the world is divided into - dar al harb and dar al islam (the land of war and the land of islam). Dar al harb is our infidel lands and basically when they are in our lands, they are technically in a war for islam. where else have you heard that sort of logic of 'if you are not with us you are against us?! - communism.

Just your saying they are not fascists is not enough.
 
I agree with you about Hitler, but not about islam. Even the so called ‘moderate’ Turkey is now radicalizing. As for Kazakhstan, we shall see how long their moderation lasts. It is very easy for islam to radicalize its population. Fear and intimidation, even against their own, is often done.

All you have to do is read the koran and Mein Kampf. Their similiarites - adding to the previous post to show islam’s fascism - is that they like to subjugate (islam’s dhimmi populations), they are intolerant, imperialistic in nature, and basically a continual war - as I already explained dar al harb and dar al islam to you.

Just saying islam is not fascist is not enough.
 
paarsurrey said:
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Why it becomes so important. He is dead; and he no longer affects our lives?

Thanks
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Except that “He who cannot remember the past is condemned to repeat it”. And we all forget the past…

Abortion is a good example…

Nazi Germany atrocities (murders) began with abortion…
 
Look it is the 21st century and there is no room on this earth for hatred and prejudice that some Islamic states create.

If Catholism today was to declare that 10 countries in the world would not allow Islam to be preached and to do so was to be treated with a penalty of death The world would be at arms and surely the Muslims would riot.

Yet I see no sort of indignant responses from the Mulims on these Islamic countries that do just that.

Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Iran, Afganistan, to name a few. Would Muslims fight for the freedoms of those in Dafur?

What appears to be the question is it is alright for muslims to practice their faith in Israel but not for Jews or Christians to practice their faith in many of these countries.

Put these Inmans out of business and join the civilized world.
 
The base teachings of Hinduism, Buddhism, christianity and others are not as communism, nazism and islam’s base teachings.

And the way we deal with criminals is our justice system which is far superior to the three fascist regimes.
 
You are absolutely wrong and what site do you think you are on.

This is a Roman Catholic Site. We know your history as we are a part of it. Condemn these oppresive Moslem states. The Catholic Church founded western civilization that you see today as Europe and if it was not for the crusades all of Europe today would be Islamic. They are still fighting a war from over a thousand years ago.

Islam has had such a sysytem and it is call Mohammed the split of Islam came apert around the same time as the Roman Church. with the East.

Will you condemn these Islamic countries?
 
Wow, one country out of how many others? And that country is not doing so well either.
 
You might be right about it being off topic - the problem is that if we do not recognize evil, which includes fascisms, in our own time then we are condemned to repeat it. And nazism is indeed on of those fascisms - as are communism and islam.

This is what led Germany to its downfall. And islam is what is leading Lebanon, which is the current country that is falling, to a fascism. As did Russia, China and many others fell to communism. Indonesia, and many other countries in Southeast Asia have fallen to islam and the violence abounds.

We can keep denying these things and just be politically correct, I suppose. That got everyone in those countries where they are today.

Since Hitler is a safe subject and was able to take over a country by a people who just stood by and let it happen - we should be forewarned of how easy it can be. And with Hitler being a Catholic - this should not only disgust us, but make us wonder how could so many other Catholics follow him. Yes, there were others of other beliefs that followed him too, but that doesn’t excuse anyone from being so easily led by such evil.

Europe is having a - what I will call - a ‘muslim problem’ right now. Go to jihadwatch.org and you will find many articles from many European nations, including the UK, having an increase in the muslim on non-muslim violence blossom. There are even recent articles on it from this week - and we have barely begun the week.

I think the europeans have been frightened silly with what happened with Hitler so this is why they let their current problem get out of hand. they are unwilling to take action, maybe by thinking it will go away. Hitler really did a ‘number’ on Europe, I will say that.

There is one thing that I have not looked into very much and that is Pope Pius and what the rumors, or truths, about him are in regards to the Nazis. I thought he hid some Jews in the Vatican. to me that showed guts since the Germans could have bombed the Vatican very easily if they found out.
 
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