Holocaust Bishop told to 'Recant'

[Merkel]

It did say distance himself, not recant. It might be sufficient if he agree to not have any opinion on the subject and never mention it again. That way he would not have to state something that he may not in good conscience believe and the Church would make it clear that the issue has nothing to do with Catholicism.

This is not a matter of faith. It’s a matter of history, documented history. The man should simply be educated on the matter. He could then state (if it were indeed the case) that his comments were born out of ignorance.

If he does not believe the facts of the holocaust in good conscience after receiving suitable education then he has no business being a Catholic cleric.

 

[Paradox2080]

I don’t think so…From what I have read he is not recognized as such…

The lifting of the excommunication only allowed them back in the church and nothing more…There is still a long way to go…This is just the first step

You are dead wrong, all you need to do is refer to the Pope’s statements where he refers to Williamson as Bishop.

 

[maurin]

This is not a matter of faith. It’s a matter of history, documented history. The man should simply be educated on the matter. He could then state (if it were indeed the case) that his comments were born out of ignorance.

If he does not believe the facts of the holocaust in good conscience after receiving suitable education then he has no business being a Catholic cleric.

Please, Merkel, but which Dogma or Doctrine has the Bishop denied?

You have “no business” passing that judgment. Only the Bishop’s superior has that “business.”

 

[Rogerteder]

The Vatican can make him recant anything that they want. That’s part of being reconciled to the Church. Its actually a perfect opportunity for Bishop Williamson to display his obedience, if he wants to make use of it.

I dont know, perhaps. Here is my question. If a Bishop. priest, individual lay Catholic etc. If someone looked at the evidence and wasnt convinced 6 million Jews died during the holocaust, and stated that publicly can the Pope say you must recant that? It isnt a sin to deny or say you arent convinced of historical evidence of a particular event. He isnt denying a Church teaching, a Church rule or discipline. He is stating his opinion on a historical event. I guees you may be correct(as I write this I am thinking) the Pope can tell a Bishop not to speak publicly about a particular event. However, can the Pope tell him to recant something he firmly believes?

 

[cathguy]

First let start by saying that Bishop Williamson has, in my humble opinion, some very odd beliefs regarding history and current events.

However, let’s be clear here. Bishop Williamson did not deny the Holocaust. He questioned the number of Jews that were slaughtered by the Nazis. The normal number that is presented is 6 million. I have no reason to disbelieve that number. Bishop Williamson chooses to accept the number as closer to 300,000. Personally, I think his numbers are a bit off the mark. Still, news stories and posts that present Bishop Williamson as a Holocaust denier are in error as well.

I think it is wrong to misrepresent the Bishop’s views when we are claiming he is misrepresenting history.

Lets be VERY clear here.

Bishop Williamson has in the past:

1. Said “Not one jew died in the gas chambers… not one”
2. Was nearly arrested in Canada for publicly extolling the book “The Hitler we Loved”
3. Has used his pretend episcopal office to encourage the laity to read the known anti-semitic forgery “Protocols of the Elders of Zion”
4. Has defended anti-Jewish pogroms

And that is a short list available to any one with access to Google.

Not only is he a holocaust denier, he is an anti-semitic bigot. And YES, it is fair to say so; just as it is fair to call Hitler and ant-semite…

Or would you argue that point to?

His apologists need to STOP. He MUST recant. NOW. He promotes evil.

What make me MOST sick is that I am a traditionalist Catholic who loves the old Mass. This sicko has linked the Mass I love, and the Traditional Catholicism Iove, with the ugliest and most indefensible hate. Now, it will be even harder to promote the Traditional Latin Mass. Williamson has done more to destroy Traditional Catholicism than anyone else, even the most egregious liberals.

He MUST recant. I don’t believe he will. If he refuses, and if the SSPX refuses to condemn his words as opposed to the effects they caused, the SSPX should NEVER be given normal canonical status. If they do not discipline this scandal causing prelate, they will prove that they are out pervert Traditional Catholicism by using it as vehicle to sow hate, all the while calling it a virtue.

SHAME ON WILLIAMSON. AND SHAME ON ANYONE WHO DEFENDS HIM.

 

[Dauphin]

Lets be VERY clear here.

Bishop Williamson has in the past:

1. Said “Not one jew died in the gas chambers… not one”
2. Was nearly arrested in Canada for publicly extolling the book “The Hitler we Loved”
3. Has used his pretend episcopal office to encourage the laity to read the known anti-semitic forgery “Protocols of the Elders of Zion”
4. Has defended anti-Jewish pogroms

And that is a short list available to any one with access to Google.

Not only is he a holocaust denier, he is an anti-semitic bigot. And YES, it is fair to say so; just as it is fair to call Hitler and ant-semite…

Or would you argue that point to?

His apologists need to STOP. He MUST recant. NOW. He promotes evil.

What make me MOST sick is that I am a traditionalist Catholic who loves the old Mass. This sicko has linked the Mass I love, and the Traditional Catholicism Iove, with the ugliest and most indefensible hate. Now, it will be even harder to promote the Traditional Latin Mass. Williamson has done more to destroy Traditional Catholicism than anyone else, even the most egregious liberals.

He MUST recant. I don’t believe he will. If he refuses, and if the SSPX refuses to condemn his words as opposed to the effects they caused, the SSPX should NEVER be given normal canonical status. If they do not discipline this scandal causing prelate, they will prove that they are out pervert Traditional Catholicism by using it as vehicle to sow hate, all the while calling it a virtue.

SHAME ON WILLIAMSON. AND SHAME ON ANYONE WHO DEFENDS HIM.

It’s not acceptable to speak of a Bishop this way. He holds the fullness of Christ’s priesthood. Feel free to criticise his words, but public detraction of this kind is an affront to episcopal dignity.