Holocaust/SSPX

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I saw on another thread that someone claimed that the SSPX denies the holocaust. Is that true? Do they deny it happened?
 
Rogerteder said:
I saw on another thread that someone claimed that the SSPX denies the holocaust. Is that true? Do they deny it happened?
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Saying “the SSPX” is pretty broad- but for the most part SSPX- attendees do not deny the holocaust. They are quick to defend Pius XII’s role in WWII, after all.
 
One should not believe everything one reads on the internet. The SSPX has no “position” on the Holocaust. Some of its leaders have made statements on it, but nothing that flatly denies it and nothing that goes beyond a personal opinion.
 
I think one of the SSPX leaders denies the holocaust. The organization as a whole and the individual members certainly do not.
 
Some do, but some “Novus Ordo Catholics” (no offense intended, just a description) and bishops deny the True Presence and the Perpetual Virginity of the Blessed Virgin Mary. The Holocaust being a fraud is not the “SSPX position,” just the personal opinion of some.
 
I doubt very much if the SSPX denies the holocaust. There is so much documented, film and witness testimony evidence that even a 5 year old would know it happened.
 
thistle said:
I doubt very much if the SSPX denies the holocaust. There is so much documented, film and witness testimony evidence that even a 5 year old would know it happened.
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While the SSPX may not deny the Holocaust, humanity will disappoint you. There are indeed people out there who attribute it to a vast zionist conspiracy.
 
Can someone post the documents please, that infallibly define the dogma of the holocaust?

Thanks.
 
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Can someone post the documents please, that infallibly define the dogma of the holocaust?

Thanks.
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It is not a matter of faith and morals. One can believe that it did not exist and not be a heretic, just like one can believe in the Tooth Fairy and Easter Bunny and not be a heretic.
 
pnewton said:
It is not a matter of faith and morals. One can believe that it did not exist and not be a heretic, just like one can believe in the Tooth Fairy and Easter Bunny and not be a heretic.
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Ok. Phew!
 
Cluny said:
Here is the source of this notion.

In short, it’s the personal opinion of Bp. Williamson, SSPX. It might be widespread in the SSPX, but I really doubt it’s their official position.

It’s certainly not that of the Catholic Church.

remnantnewspaper.com/Archives/2009-sspx_bishop_to_be_charged.htm
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What does it matter? There are much bigger issues in the world today. 50 million babies murdered in the US alone since Roe vs Wade - does that even rate a mention in the papers? No.

But then again, who owns the media? Free press? LOL!
 
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What does it matter? There are much bigger issues in the world today. 50 million babies murdered in the US alone since Roe vs Wade - does that even rate a mention in the papers? No.
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Excellent point. The Jews (and others) could’ve fought back; unborn babies cannot.
But then again, who owns the media?
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The Devil?
 
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What does it matter? There are much bigger issues in the world today. 50 million babies murdered in the US alone since Roe vs Wade -
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Right you are. The past is history and nothing will change it. Yet we have our own holocaust here today. None of this has to do with the theology or position of the SSPX. I think the whole Holocaust issue arises because we can’t fathom where the individual is coming from. Does he really hate Jews, mentally unbalanced or just that ignorant? In any case, it does not affect what the SSPX teaches. Principles above personality, as they say. (They being extraterrestrials, of course)
 
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603304529:
Can someone post the documents please, that infallibly define the dogma of the holocaust?
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I rather like what both thistle and pnewton said:
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pnewton:
It is not a matter of faith and morals. One can believe that it did not exist and not be a heretic, just like one can believe in the Tooth Fairy and Easter Bunny and not be a heretic.
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thistle:
There is so much documented, film and witness testimony evidence that even a 5 year old would know it happened.
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I’ll add that I’m quite sure PP Pius XII, Bl PP John XXIII, Manuel Cardinal Gonçalves-Cerejeira, etc, etc, would have something to say (my, but I think they did, both in words and deeds!) to confirm that it was real and not a fabrication.
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603304529:
… But then again, who owns the media? Free press? LOL!
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Here we go with that tired “conspiracy” theory again. :yawn:

BTW, since when is Rupert Murdoch a Jew?
 
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