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Bishop Thomas Tobin (Providence R.I.) shares concern, as reported in Catholic News, about “boisterous atmosphere, talking before Mass”…and how he has witnessed complete lack of reverence in the way people dress. HIs Excellency recalls his concerns reaching it’s pinnacle while administering Holy Communion, to a confirmation sponsor who dropped the Sacred Host he had placed in her hand and she looked at him and giggled saying “I guess I’ll need another one of those” like she had jus lost her favorite snack cracker. Question: has not the change in the Liturgy, hand holding, applauding, anouncing birthdays, etc etc lent itself to a lowering the bar, so to speak regarding what is expected…when less is expected will not less be presented ? Is it no wonder that there is a complete lack of reverence for the Eucharist. St. Francis of Assisi writes to his Friars…“Let the entire man be seized with fear, let the whole world tremble; let Heaven exult when Christ, the Son of the Living God, is on the altar in the hands of the Priest. Oh humble sublimity O sublime humility. That the Lord of the universe, God and Son of God so humbles himself that for our salvation he hides himself under a morsel of bread”
 
Wouldn’t this entire problem cease to exist if one decides to go back to the Tridentine mass practice of receiving the host on the tounge while kneeling?

That was far more reverent than today’s praxis.
Only the priest should handle the blood and body of Christ as has always been the praxis in the past.

No layman should ever touch the eucharist IMO.
 
No, No, No, No, No.

Ignorance, inappropriate behavior, and irreverence by some have nothing to do with the form of the Mass, or changes in liturgy.

The continued and relentless disdain for Church approved forms of the Mass and liturgy is as much an affront to the memory and sacredness of Christ’s sacrifice as those exercising inappropriate behavior at the Mass.

Most of the examples of irreverence are the result of poor Catechesis, and it is the responsibility of Catholics to provide gentle, corrective instruction to the individuals instead of brandishing a dangerous Catechesis of Division, which undermines the Church instead of strengthening it.

Peace and all good!
 
Whats shown in OUTward disrespect is evidence
of the INward erosion by the lack of fear of God!
Change the ATTITUDE and the Culpability is
lessened!!!
 
Neofight said:
No, No, No, No, No.

Ignorance, inappropriate behavior, and irreverence by some have nothing to do with the form of the Mass, or changes in liturgy.

The continued and relentless disdain for Church approved forms of the Mass and liturgy is as much an affront to the memory and sacredness of Christ’s sacrifice as those exercising inappropriate behavior at the Mass.

Most of the examples of irreverence are the result of poor Catechesis, and it is the responsibility of Catholics to provide gentle, corrective instruction to the individuals instead of brandishing a dangerous Catechesis of Division, which undermines the Church instead of strengthening it.

Peace and all good!
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I agree with you! Poor catechesis mainly…
 
Neofight said:
No, No, No, No, No.

Ignorance, inappropriate behavior, and irreverence by some have nothing to do with the form of the Mass, or changes in liturgy.

The continued and relentless disdain for Church approved forms of the Mass and liturgy is as much an affront to the memory and sacredness of Christ’s sacrifice as those exercising inappropriate behavior at the Mass.

Most of the examples of irreverence are the result of poor Catechesis, and it is the responsibility of Catholics to provide gentle, corrective instruction to the individuals instead of brandishing a dangerous Catechesis of Division, which undermines the Church instead of strengthening it.

Peace and all good!
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Well stated.
 
GLam8833 said:
Whats shown in OUTward disrespect is evidence
of the INward erosion by the lack of fear of God!
Change the ATTITUDE and the Culpability is
lessened!!!
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As I posted, it is the Catechistics which affect the
attitude towards the Eucharist, the Church needs
to GO BACK and strengthen the reverence once
held towards the sacrament of the Eucharist!
 
CactusVsBaloon said:
Only the priest should handle the blood and body of Christ as has always been the praxis in the past.

No layman should ever touch the eucharist IMO.
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Actually, that wasn’t the practice in the early Church. In the early days of the Church, laypeople were able to take Eucharist home to their sick family members, so that all could share in the Eucharistic communion. Literally, everyone could ‘touch the Eucharist’. It was only later that the practice of only allowing clerics to handle the Eucharist, and only allowing reception on the tongue, came into existence.
 
I agree with the original author.

When I enter Mass I hear loud talk when all I want to do is pray. Take your disrespect to Waffle House.
 
Just curious, only asking a question. What is disrespectful about polite conversation?

:confused:
 
Neofight said:
No, No, No, No, No.

Ignorance, inappropriate behavior, and irreverence by some have nothing to do with the form of the Mass, or changes in liturgy.

The continued and relentless disdain for Church approved forms of the Mass and liturgy is as much an affront to the memory and sacredness of Christ’s sacrifice as those exercising inappropriate behavior at the Mass.

Most of the examples of irreverence are the result of poor Catechesis, and it is the responsibility of Catholics to provide gentle, corrective instruction to the individuals instead of brandishing a dangerous Catechesis of Division, which undermines the Church instead of strengthening it.

Peace and all good!
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Amen and God Bless, Memaw
 
TARRAT said:
Just curious, only asking a question. What is disrespectful about polite conversation?

:confused:
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When in the presence of Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament, our conversation should be with him and no one else. A smile will do for others. God Bless, Memaw
 
Gorgias said:
Actually, that wasn’t the practice in the early Church. In the early days of the Church, laypeople were able to take Eucharist home to their sick family members, so that all could share in the Eucharistic communion.
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When Masses were celebrated in the catacombs? Interesting.
 
Neofight said:
No, No, No, No, No.

Ignorance, inappropriate behavior, and irreverence by some have nothing to do with the form of the Mass, or changes in liturgy.

The continued and relentless disdain for Church approved forms of the Mass and liturgy is as much an affront to the memory and sacredness of Christ’s sacrifice as those exercising inappropriate behavior at the Mass.

Most of the examples of irreverence are the result of poor Catechesis, and it is the responsibility of Catholics to provide gentle, corrective instruction to the individuals instead of brandishing a dangerous Catechesis of Division, which undermines the Church instead of strengthening it.

Peace and all good!
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Catechesis of Division? Where is it stated, or by who’s authority, did desiring the Extraordinary Form of the mass become relentless disdain. You did note the Church’s approved forms of the mass. When I hear these types of remarks about “traditional” Catholics being divisive, as if they are sedavacantists, it makes me cringe. What about the traditional Catholics who voice their opinions only to become ostracized. And what about priests who not only tolerate inappropriate behavior in the sanctuary, but participate in it. How about respecting the individuals right to worship in a reverent manner, including the Extraordinary Form of the Sacred Liturgy, if they feel the Holy Spirit moving them in this manner. It is not so much about divisiveness, but many see the irreverence and liturgical abuses, and are making their voices heard. I have said it before, and I will say it again, the seminarians and many of the young people I know are thirsting for what the Mass used to be, and I truly believe that we will see a return to more of the traditional Catholic liturgies and teachings.
 
TARRAT said:
Just curious, only asking a question. What is disrespectful about polite conversation?

:confused:
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Polite conversation belongs at coffee hour AFTER Mass. This is a pet peeve of mine in my current parish. Almost a complete lack of reverence before and during Mass.

Last Sunday two men behind me chatted the entire time as we waited to go up for communion. I don’t know what they were talking about as I did my best to ignore it, but they were right behind me. One is a regular at Mass as he & his wife always sit behind me.

During the sign of peace, people are laughing, peace signs flying across the church, some going aisle to aisle, and the choir is trying to start Lamb of God.

I was taught that when we enter the Church for Mass we are to take the time to prepare ourselves for the receiving of the Eucharist. I can’t count how many times I’ve been kneeling in prayer before Mass and have had people tap me on the shoulder to say hello.

Our priest has to remind folks to remain kneeling (if able) until the Jesus is put away safely in the tabernacle.

We have a coffee hour every Sunday after Mass. So there is plenty of time for socialization then. I just don’t get it. :confused:
 
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