Holy Communion Vessels

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**So I have heard that according to the new Roman Missal - it is not the role of lay people to place the Chalice or Communion Cup on the altar either as a Mass server or after distrubing Holy Communion.

Some say this is in the new Missal…does anyone know where?**
 
Don’t know , but our church is using parts of the old and new missal after months and months of debate and complaints
 
When I was trained as an EMHC in 2009, we were told not to place anything on the altar ourselves, to wait to hand them to the deacon or priest. So it can’t be something new. 🤷
 
I do sometimes if the priests are still distributing. :o We were trained to approach the altar from the front and place it there before going to purify our fingers.
 
I know EMHC’s are not allowed to take the ciborium off the altar but have it handed to them. I have never read anything about returning it to the altar. In our parish the EMHC’s place it on the altar when they finish distributing. Sometimes if you are the first one finshed there is no one to hand it to since the priest and deacon are still distributing.
 
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When I was trained as an EMHC in 2009, we were told not to place anything on the altar ourselves, to wait to hand them to the deacon or priest. So it can’t be something new. 🤷
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I choose this practice as well. I continue to distribute until all are finished and then when Father is at the altar I hand the host to him. Not sure if this is according to Cannon Law or the CCC, I don't feel right laying anything on the altar. Not sure why, it just seems right to me.
 
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**So I have heard that according to the new Roman Missal - it is not the role of lay people to place the Chalice or Communion Cup on the altar either as a Mass server or after distrubing Holy Communion.

Some say this is in the new Missal…does anyone know where?**
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From the General Instruction of the Roman Missal (GIRM):

“139. When the Universal Prayer is over, all sit, and the Offertory chant begins (cf., no. 74).
An acolyte or other lay minister arranges the corporal, the purificator, the chalice, the pall, and the Missal on the altar.”

So clearly wrong to say a Mass server should not do this.

After Communion the GIRM has:

“163. When the distribution of Communion is over, the Priest himself immediately and completely consumes at the altar any consecrated wine that happens to remain; as for any consecrated hosts that are left, he either consumes them at the altar or carries them to the place designated for the reservation of the Eucharist.
Upon returning to the altar, the Priest collects the fragments, should any remain, and he stands at the altar or at the credence table and purifies the paten or ciborium over the chalice, and after this purifies the chalice, saying quietly the formula Quod ore sumpsimus, Domine (What has passed our lips), and dries the chalice with a purificator. If the vessels are purified at the altar, they are carried to the credence table by a minister. Nevertheless, it is also permitted to leave vessels needing to be purified, especially if there are several, on a corporal, suitably covered, either on the altar or on the credence table, and to purify them immediately after Mass, after the Dismissal of the people.”

So, nothing suggesting that lay ministers should not take vessels to the altar, if this were the place for the purifications.

GIRM quotes are from Roman Missal, English translation according to the third typical edition, approved for use in the dioceses of Australia, England and Wales, and Scotland, published by Catholic Truth Society, in 2010, ISBN 9781860827303.
 
I thought that this thread would be about the actual vessels, as in the chalice, paten, etc. My parish still uses a GLASS JUG (they charitably call it a flagon) to consecrate the wine (yes, they fraction it after consecration), even after I sent a very kind message about it. I have to turn away from the altar every time this “fractioning” occurs.
 
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