Holy Day Obligation in the Eastern Rite

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In understanding I am following the advice of the Eparchial Bishop to use the book “Inter-Ecclesial Relations Between Eastern and Latin Catholics”. An adaptation of rite is issued by the Congregation for the Eastern Churches. This is described on page 9 of that book. The issues about the legality of administering the sacraments is throughly described in this book also, which is the source of my posted comments (in addition to my pastor and the chancery), not my speculation or personal opinion.

Previous I said: “What I mean by automatically is: without a specific com[m]itment by the Church. It is not lawful when they are Christian faithful of other Churches sui iuris if they are not his subjects, unless through another title or danger of death.” And you object to the words the words committed and entrusted, because they are not the word commitment, and because there is no canonical definition.

I can recommend that you read the book I reference to see what I am talking about with regard to each sacrament, and also in general for the canons included for the preservation of the individual rites and the rights and obligations of the faithful.
Vico, pray tell what Bishop and chancery you are referring too? I would like to speak to him myself. I cant believe you are being given this info from a Byzantine catholic bishop in the year 2010. Thank you. Feel free to PM me if you are reluctant to post this info publicly.
 
Vico, pray tell what Bishop and chancery you are referring too? I would like to speak to him myself. I cant believe you are being given this info from a Byzantine catholic bishop in the year 2010. Thank you. Feel free to PM me if you are reluctant to post this info publicly.
Earlier in this thread I mentioned the book, and that it has a forward in it from the Metropolitan Basil Myron Scott, D.D., Byzantine Catholic Church sui iuris of Pittsburgh, Chairman Association of hte USA Eastern Bishops, where he is recommending it for general use by the faithful and by the hierarchy. My Byzantine pastor is also aware of this book, since I showed it to him, and it getting a copy. Before seeing that book, he also answered my questions about administration of the sacraments and the permissions he has to get for Latins, and how they are not always granted.

I called the Latin Chancery (about Latins becoming Byzantine, and the following of penitential and holy days, and territorial law for Latins in the USA), because we are referring to Latin Catholics replacing Latin obligations with Eastern obligations. (I will send you the name and phone number.)
 
Earlier in this thread I mentioned the book, and that it has a forward in it from the Metropolitan Basil Myron Scott, D.D., Byzantine Catholic Church sui iuris of Pittsburgh, Chairman Association of hte USA Eastern Bishops, where he is recommending it for general use by the faithful and by the hierarchy. My Byzantine pastor is also aware of this book, since I showed it to him, and it getting a copy. Before seeing that book, he also answered my questions about administration of the sacraments and the permissions he has to get for Latins, and how they are not always granted.

I called the Latin Chancery (about Latins becoming Byzantine, and the following of penitential and holy days, and territorial law for Latins in the USA), because we are referring to Latin Catholics replacing Latin obligations with Eastern obligations. (I will send you the name and phone number.)
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Thanks for sending the info along. I will contact him tomorrow. Did you happen to notice that his area of expertise is Liturgy, not canon law? I just find it so interesting that there are still people who should know better ( like this priest you spoke to) giving out advise contrary to the bishops. I dont doubt that he told you this, I just want to understand where he is coming from.
 
In understanding I am following the advice of the Eparchial Bishop to use the book “Inter-Ecclesial Relations Between Eastern and Latin Catholics”. An adaptation of rite is issued by the Congregation for the Eastern Churches. This is described on page 9 of that book. The issues about the legality of administering the sacraments is throughly described in this book also, which is the source of my posted comments (in addition to my pastor and the chancery), not my speculation or personal opinion.
I can recommend that you read the book I reference to see what I am talking about with regard to each sacrament, and also in general for the canons included for the preservation of the individual rites and the rights and obligations of the faithful.
I possess the work in question in addition to several other commentaries. These are just that, commentaries with guidance for adjudication, and are most certainly not the law itself. I do not necessarily obtain the same conclusions you do from not just this work, but the larger corpus of applicable commentary. As someone involved in parochial and mission ministry I trust those who have experience in the specific pastoral application and those familiar with the history of precedent and economia in this regard, rather than one seemingly misinformed Latin Catholic.
 
If I cannot get to my Byzantine Church (70 miles away).for Liturgy for Ascension Thursday, can I fulfill my obligation by attending a local Roman Catholic Mass on Wednesday Evening or Thursday, even if it is not a mass for the Ascension? The Ascension is celebrated on Sunday, May 16 in the Indiana Roman Catholic dioceses.
 
If I cannot get to my Byzantine Church (70 miles away).for Liturgy for Ascension Thursday, can I fulfill my obligation by attending a local Roman Catholic Mass on Wednesday Evening or Thursday, even if it is not a mass for the Ascension? The Ascension is celebrated on Sunday, May 16 in the Indiana Roman Catholic dioceses.
Yes. Any obligation can be fulfilled by attending the divine worship service in “any Catholic rite” on the day the obligation is held, or on the vigil. If one is of a tradition that permits, the office of the Hours of Vespers or Matins will also fulfill the obligation ( Orientalium Ecclesiarium and CCEO.)
 
Actually this very same thing came up for me. I, too, am a Latin Rite Catholic and worship at the Maronite Rite which has different holy days of obligation. I contacted the Latin Rite Bishops office and I spoke to the appropriate person there. I explained I was a Latin Rite Catholic worshiping in a Maronite Church and not just on occasion, but am registered as a regular parishioner in the parish. The priest advised me that since I regularly attend the Maronite Church I should follow the Maronite Calendar of Holy Days of Obligation.
 
Actually this very same thing came up for me. I, too, am a Latin Rite Catholic and worship at the Maronite Rite which has different holy days of obligation. I contacted the Latin Rite Bishops office and I spoke to the appropriate person there. I explained I was a Latin Rite Catholic worshiping in a Maronite Church and not just on occasion, but am registered as a regular parishioner in the parish. The priest advised me that since I regularly attend the Maronite Church I should follow the Maronite Calendar of Holy Days of Obligation.
Really? I’ve always heard the opposite, that until you formally change enrollment to the Maronite church you’re required to observe the Latin calendar.
 
Really? I’ve always heard the opposite, that until you formally change enrollment to the Maronite church you’re required to observe the Latin calendar.
Yes, this is what the priest in the Latin Rite Archdiocese informed he! I was told by the Cardinal’s office that this is the priest who handles those who desire to transfer from an Eastern Rite tradition to the Latin Rite tradition. Following the other rites holy day of obligation is ONLY if you regularly attend the opposite traditions church on a REGULAR basis.
 
Yes, this is what the priest in the Latin Rite Archdiocese informed he! I was told by the Cardinal’s office that this is the priest who handles those who desire to transfer from an Eastern Rite tradition to the Latin Rite tradition. Following the other rites holy day of obligation is ONLY if you regularly attend the opposite traditions church on a REGULAR basis.
No. That is not enough. You have to formally change churches. Till then, no matter how regularly you attend the Maronite church, you are not Maronite, you are Latin. Registering in a parish does not constitute a change of church. Until you go through tbe formal change of church, you are bound by Latin law.
 
No. That is not enough. You have to formally change churches. Till then, no matter how regularly you attend the Maronite church, you are not Maronite, you are Latin. Registering in a parish does not constitute a change of church. Until you go through tbe formal change of church, you are bound by Latin law.
Perhaps the Latin bishop, in this case, has chosen to handle things differently and has dispensed those who regularly attend non-Latin parishes from Latin Holy Days. Nobody said that he was now Maronite. He was just told that he could follow the Maronite calendar. There are already provisions in the law for doing so under some circumstances. Apparently, his bishop has chosen to allow this. That doesn’t make it applicable universally, but it is enough for him.
 
Perhaps the Latin bishop, in this case, has chosen to handle things differently and has dispensed those who regularly attend non-Latin parishes from Latin Holy Days. Nobody said that he was now Maronite. He was just told that he could follow the Maronite calendar. There are already provisions in the law for doing so under some circumstances. Apparently, his bishop has chosen to allow this. That doesn’t make it applicable universally, but it is enough for him.
FWLIW, I agree. And I feel compelled to add that, even in the absence of an episcopal dispensation, the Latin rules are less strict. Even in the case of the Maronites. For example, there are no Latin Holy Days that would conflict with Maronite Holy Days. By observing the latter, one would fulfill any “obligations” attached to the former. The same is true with fasting. The calendar itself is, of course, different, but not in a way that would affect any “obligation” that may attach. And I’d venture to say that the same would hold true for any ECC/OCC, not only the Maronites…
 
FWLIW, I agree. And I feel compelled to add that, even in the absence of an episcopal dispensation, the Latin rules are less strict. Even in the case of the Maronites. For example, there are no Latin Holy Days that would conflict with Maronite Holy Days. By observing the latter, one would fulfill any “obligations” attached to the former. The same is true with fasting. The calendar itself is, of course, different, but not in a way that would affect any “obligation” that may attach. And I’d venture to say that the same would hold true for any ECC/OCC, not only the Maronites…
The only day that comes to mind for Byzantines would be November 1 (All Saints Day). Do Maronites have a Holy Day on that day? Also, in some Byzantine Churches, the Maternity of St. Anna (Immaculate Conception) is observed on December 9. It would also be an issue if a parish were on the Julian calendar. Christmas on December 25 or January 7?
 
The only day that comes to mind for Byzantines would be November 1 (All Saints Day). Do Maronites have a Holy Day on that day?
Well yes, of course the Maronites observe “All Saints” on Nov 1, and that despite the redundancy with the Sunday of the Righteous and the Just. 🤷 For some years, Nov 1st was suppressed as HDO but was revived along with the self-imposition of Novus Ordo-inspired neo-latinizations in the past 10 years.
 
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