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CatholicZ09
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Why is it that when a Holy Day of Obligation falls on a Monday or Saturday in the United States, the obligation to attend Mass is abrogated, with exception being the Immaculate Conception?
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JMJ_coder
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The obligation is abrogated due to the proximity to Sunday. There is no exception for the Immaculate Conception in the United States because the Immaculate Conception is the patroness of the United States. There is also no exception for Christmas. And as the Ascension will always be on a Thursday or transferred to Sunday, this won’t ever fall under that.Why is it that when a Holy Day of Obligation falls on a Monday or Saturday in the United States, the obligation to attend Mass is abrogated, with exception being the Immaculate Conception?
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puzzleannie
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personally, I have no idea, you would have to ask the Church who gave the permission, and the bishops who chose to exercise that option. My guess is, and the explanation I have heard most frequently is, that since so few people were availing themselves of the celebrations of those solemnities that they were in danger of being overlooked completely, that they were moved to Sunday so at least there is a chance to observe and preach on them for the greater body of people.Why is it that when a Holy Day of Obligation falls on a Monday or Saturday in the United States, the obligation to attend Mass is abrogated, with exception being the Immaculate Conception?
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Chatter163
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When the American bishops made these modifications in the early nineties, they stated that they were trying not to unduly burden people for whom attending Mass on two consecutive days would be a hardship. They specifically mentioned mothers of young children and those caring for elderly relatives as examples.
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JMJ_coder
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Though, I would opine that such should be exceptions taken care of at the parish pastoral level (i.e., individual dispensations) instead of a general rule.When the American bishops made these modifications in the early nineties, they stated that they were trying not to unduly burden people for whom attending Mass on two consecutive days would be a hardship. They specifically mentioned mothers of young children and those caring for elderly relatives as examples.
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Chatter163
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I agree completely.Though, I would opine that such should be exceptions taken care of at the parish pastoral level (i.e., individual dispensations) instead of a general rule.
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agapewolf
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Except for Holy Thursday, the holy days are not moved to Sunday. They just are not obligations.personally, I have no idea, you would have to ask the Church who gave the permission, and the bishops who chose to exercise that option. My guess is, and the explanation I have heard most frequently is, that since so few people were availing themselves of the celebrations of those solemnities that they were in danger of being overlooked completely, that they were moved to Sunday so at least there is a chance to observe and preach on them for the greater body of people.
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WatchingMedia
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I was wondering the same thing. Perhaps there are not enough Priests for all areas of the US?
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JMJ_coder
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A Holy Day of Obligation can either be transferred or abrogated. If the day falls on a Monday or Saturday, the obligation is abrogated (i.e., there is no obligation). If the days falls on Tuesday-Friday, the day can be transferred to Sunday (i.e., the obligation still exists, but exists [along, I believe, with all propers] on the designated Sunday).Except for Holy Thursday, the holy days are not moved to Sunday. They just are not obligations.
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JMJ_coder
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There’s the same number of Priests on Sunday as on any other day of the week.I was wondering the same thing. Perhaps there are not enough Priests for all areas of the US?
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puzzleannie
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Holy Thursday is not a holy day of obligationExcept for Holy Thursday, the holy days are not moved to Sunday. They just are not obligations.
Ascension Thursday is moved to Sunday
the only day I am aware of that cannot move is the Immaculate Conception. Here, All Saints is observed on Sunday if it falls on Saturday or Monday.
Here also priests are limited to 3 Masses on Sunday unless they have been given permission to celebrate more, which is granted routinely, but no more than 4. Anyplace with 10 Masses would have to have 3-4 priests, I don’t think any parish here has that luxury.
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agapewolf
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I meant Ascension Thursday, not Holy Thursday. ooops.Holy Thursday is not a holy day of obligation
Ascension Thursday is moved to Sunday
the only day I am aware of that cannot move is the Immaculate Conception. Here, All Saints is observed on Sunday if it falls on Saturday or Monday.
Here also priests are limited to 3 Masses on Sunday unless they have been given permission to celebrate more, which is granted routinely, but no more than 4. Anyplace with 10 Masses would have to have 3-4 priests, I don’t think any parish here has that luxury.
I was responding to your comment about the days being moved to Sunday…they don’t do that here, except for Ascension Thursday.
It remains on the Saturday or Monday, there is no obligation to attend.
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